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Japan's digital minister declares 'war' on humble floppy disk in new digital push
The Japan Times ^ | August 31, 2022 | Bloomberg

Posted on 09/01/2022 6:15:41 AM PDT by chajin

Japan’s digital minister, who’s vowed to rid the bureaucracy of outdated tools from the hanko stamp to the fax machine, has now declared “war” on a technology many haven’t seen for decades — the floppy disk.

The hand-sized, square-shaped data storage item, along with similar devices including the CD or even lesser-known mini disk, are still required for some 1,900 government procedures and must go, digital minister Taro Kono wrote in a Twitter post Wednesday.

“We will be reviewing these practices swiftly,” Kono said in a news conference Tuesday, adding that Prime Minister Fumio Kishida has offered his full support. “Where does one even buy a floppy disk these days?”

A working group of the government’s Digital Extraordinary Administrative Advisory Committee is considering abolishing such designations to promote online application filing.

The working group has found about 1,900 clauses of laws, government, ministerial and other ordinances stipulating that specific storage devices, such as floppy and magneto-optical disks, be used to make administrative applications and keep data.

Japan isn’t the only nation that has struggled to phase out the outdated technology — the U.S. Defense Department only announced in 2019 that it had ended use of floppy disks, first developed in the 1960s, in a control system for its nuclear arsenal. Sony Group stopped making the disks in 2011 and many young people would struggle to describe how to use one or even to identify one in the modern workplace.

Legal hurdles are making it difficult to adopt modern technology like cloud storage for wider use within the bureaucracy, according to a presentation by the government’s digital task force dated Tuesday. The group will review the provisions, and plans to announce ways to improve them by the year-end.

The committee also launched a legislation screening team to examine whether new laws include outdated analog regulations that do not fit a digital society.

The screening will begin with bills to be submitted to an extraordinary session of parliament, which is slated to be held in autumn.

Kono said any opposition from ministries or agencies, if there is any, “will be pushed down.”

Kono, one of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party’s most visible politicians who is often cited by voters as a contender to be prime minister, has been an outspoken critic of bureaucratic inefficiencies due to archaic practices, most notably the fax machine and the hanko — a unique, carved red stamp that remains necessary to sign off official documents like a marriage license. He tried to curb use of both when he was administrative reform minister between 2020 and 2021, but the two are still widely used.

“I’m looking to get rid of the fax machine, and I still plan to do that,” Kono quipped at his news conference Tuesday.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: floppydisks; japan
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Japan, land of yesterday's technology 🙄
1 posted on 09/01/2022 6:15:41 AM PDT by chajin
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To: chajin

I still have my hanko from my days in Japan.


2 posted on 09/01/2022 6:25:17 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs2
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To: chajin

Those floppies just aren’t suited for loading state secrets on...and selling them to China.


3 posted on 09/01/2022 6:28:28 AM PDT by moovova
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To: chajin

The Floppotron: Sweet Dreams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGfkPCZYfFw


4 posted on 09/01/2022 6:32:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: chajin
I’m running my home computer with punch cards. So I’m actually jealous of Japan’s advanced floppy disk technology.


5 posted on 09/01/2022 6:32:37 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: chajin

I have some 3.5” floppies that have some family photos on them. I was able to recover the photos with a Bytecc BT-144 USB external floppy drive. I was even able to boot my computer into DOS with it.


6 posted on 09/01/2022 6:33:02 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: chajin

Ah...the old days.

7 posted on 09/01/2022 6:43:28 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great minds drink alike...me and my baby havin' a hell of a night. - - BB King)
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To: chajin

I’m actually surprised to learn that Japan still uses floppy disks.


8 posted on 09/01/2022 6:45:43 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: BBQToadRibs2
I still have my hanko from my days in Japan.

Take it with you when you have tempura, and you can engage in hanko-panko

9 posted on 09/01/2022 6:47:42 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: chajin

I’ve read that Japan might export 2020 technology, but they function as a society 40 years behind.


10 posted on 09/01/2022 6:52:38 AM PDT by Jonty30 (Some men want tod watch the world burn. It is they that want you to buy an electric car.)
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To: Robert DeLong

In some ways using outdated storage mediums adds a level of security. “Security through obscurity” alone isn’t enough to secure a system, but it can be nice extra layer of security.


11 posted on 09/01/2022 6:53:23 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: chajin; All

FWIW, Taro Kono is the fourth generation of Kono politicians, sorta like the Rockefellers in the early 20th century here. He’s almost certainly going to become the next PM, perhaps in Trump’s second term or when DeSantis becomes POTUS in 2028; their summit meetings will not need translators, since Kono-san speaks near-perfect English.


12 posted on 09/01/2022 6:55:36 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: chajin

How else can you play King’s Quest?…


13 posted on 09/01/2022 6:58:36 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I occasionally bought those.


14 posted on 09/01/2022 7:18:48 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: chajin

I will send him a box of punch cards explaining the reasons that is a dumb idea. Don’t drop it or it will look like a Biden speech when you restack them randomly.


15 posted on 09/01/2022 7:19:16 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The government sees you as either livestock or pet. If things get bad they will eat their pets too.)
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To: Tell It Right
That's a very good point, and I agree wholeheartedly. 🙂

Nonetheless, it still surprises me. 🙂

16 posted on 09/01/2022 7:20:43 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: chajin

Are you absolutely sure that the “Digital Minister” isn’t an animatronic robot or a hologram?


17 posted on 09/01/2022 7:21:16 AM PDT by x
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To: chajin

It was fun inserting a black sheet of paper or two, and taping end to end to send to unfavored people ;)


18 posted on 09/01/2022 7:23:38 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: chajin

“Take it with you when you have tempura, and you can engage in hanko-panko”

Ba-Dun ‘Tsss


19 posted on 09/01/2022 7:28:40 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs2
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To: chajin
My 1983 vintage TRS-80 Model 16A has DS/DD 8 inch floppy drives. I was having trouble finding floppy media. A solution was to grab a wire wrap perf board and create an adapter from 8 in DS/DD to 3 1/2" DS/DD floppy. It works fine. I can boot the machine and perform saves/restores to the drive. That solved my floppy media issue. The hard disk was a bit lame and was updated to a 750 MB device. I run Xenix on that machine. The C compiler was employed to build the Korn shell from source. I passed the necessary updates back to David Korn to improve the portability of his source. Ultimately, I did that for 30 platforms at PacBell.

I still have machines with floppy drives. They are useful for Intel motherboards that need firmware updates using a generic DOS image.

20 posted on 09/01/2022 8:00:46 AM PDT by Myrddin
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