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Army program gives poor-performing recruits a second chance
AP via Yahoo ^ | 08/28/2022 | LOLITA C. BALDOR

Posted on 08/28/2022 3:00:15 PM PDT by DFG

Chaz Andrews has wanted to join the Army since he was 19, but he has failed the service's academic test more than 10 times over the past decade.

Now, at age 29, Andrews thinks he has a real shot to pass, thanks to a new Army program that gives lower-performing recruits up to 90 days of academic or fitness instruction to help them meet military standards.

“I didn’t want to give up on it,” he said during a recent break in his classroom schedule at Fort Jackson, where he is one of more than 300 recruits who have been allowed to enlist in the new Army prep course. And if Andrews, who is from Brooklyn, New York, is able to raise his test score, he will be allowed to continue on to basic training.

The program, which began in early August, is one way the Army is hoping to fill the ranks as it struggles with recruiting efforts that are expected to fall dramatically short of the goals this year. Army officials have described the situation as dire, with some predicting the service may fall 10,000 to 15,000 soldiers short of its recruiting target on Oct. 1 , or as much as 18% to 25%.

Military officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the totals are preliminary and could change, said the initial recruiting goal was as much as 60,000 this year, but more realistic expectations later put it at about 55,000. With one month to go, officials are predicting they will come in about 45,000, though it could get better if there is a surge at the end.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: army; mcconville; military; recruit; woke
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To: pfflier

It was far from being either enlisting or being drafted or else Vietnam would not have been fought overwhelmingly by volunteers.

Have people forgotten that men used to want to serve?


61 posted on 08/28/2022 5:53:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“I saw an interview that Ermy gave once in which he said that Kubrick basically let him write his own part and write his own lines.”

Kubrick probably looked at the lines that had been written, listened to the actual former Marine and threw the script away.
Smart move on Kubrick’s part.


62 posted on 08/28/2022 6:02:21 PM PDT by oldvirginian (There ain't no Coupe DeVille hiding at the bottom of a Cracker Jack box )
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To: DFG

Anyone remember Robert McNamara’s 100,000 during the Vietnam war. It was implemented to supplement decreasing draft numbers because so many deferments were given.


63 posted on 08/28/2022 6:03:13 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yeah, the left figured out how to break the military and did it first by removing the quotas limits on females which were 2% until 1972 and the left succeeded in ending the draft which meant we would have to switch the military budget over largely to domestic issues and start us on the road to unionization and turning the military into just another federal job.

As the decades go by the military has become more and more a family-oriented workplace, people with families, daycare, single moms, people joining in fact because of the family benefits, women are going to bleed the military and the VA dry with their obsession with seeing doctors and claims for PTSD just from suffering in a male environment and physical disability claims because their bodies are not built for routine military activities.

All this family stuff and women, and quality of life focus is moving us away from the old masculine environment of warriors.


64 posted on 08/28/2022 6:06:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: oldvirginian
Kubrick probably looked at the lines that had been written, listened to the actual former Marine and threw the script away. Smart move on Kubrick’s part.

Funny thing was that Ermy was hired as an advisor. Tim Colceri was hired for the role but good thing that Kubrick fired him.

65 posted on 08/28/2022 6:09:13 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: ansel12
All this family stuff and women, and quality of life focus is moving us away from the old masculine environment of warriors.

We'll probably get away with it for a while as long as we're able to use our drones and nukes.

66 posted on 08/28/2022 6:10:27 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Parmy

It is correct that the Mcnama project was about more numbers but it was initiated in 1966 which was also our biggest draft year of the war and the biggest since 1953.

Mcnamara must have needed a WHOLE lot of men.


67 posted on 08/28/2022 6:15:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: grundle

I think she was in the Navy and a carrier pilot.


68 posted on 08/28/2022 6:16:45 PM PDT by Reily
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To: grundle
Kara Hultgreen had repeatedly failed her U.S. Air Force training

Kara Hultgreen had absolutely NOTHING to do with the US Air Force.

69 posted on 08/28/2022 6:21:35 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I sure agree with you on that, we have awesome deadly technology and our ground units are still superb I imagine, but in a major war when we have no bench depth and our small numbers die in large volumes, we could be in real trouble.

I worry about the endurance of our military, what happens when they are getting worn down by lack of air support, lack of fuel and trucks and helicopters, front line troops going days without food getting through, and running out of ammunition, units being overrun, entire divisions being wiped out. Do these young people have the internal toughness to harden up and keep plodding into the mix losing ground, counterattacking, no sleep, bayonets even though they haven’t had a meal in two days, fighting with what they have, not what they had believed they would have always.


70 posted on 08/28/2022 6:39:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Funny thing was that Ermy was hired as an advisor. Tim Colceri was hired for the role but good thing that Kubrick fired him.”

One of those divine acts that leads to a second or third career.😊
Dale Dye (Colonel Sink, Band of Brothers) was an advisor to a movie and ended up with a small part in the movie. He’s now appeared in every movie he’s worked on, a pretty long list.


71 posted on 08/28/2022 6:42:20 PM PDT by oldvirginian (There ain't no Coupe DeVille hiding at the bottom of a Cracker Jack box )
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To: DFG
I think I've come across this guy before.

Or, maybe I've mixed him up, and it was this guy.


72 posted on 08/28/2022 7:24:26 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!)
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To: larrytown
Ask Al Gore.


73 posted on 08/28/2022 7:30:13 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
And there are probably thousands of veterans like me who are doing everything we can to dissuade men and women of military age from enlisting.

The sad part is, I loved my 8 years on active duty, but today's chain of command in the military has a spine of an invertebrate.

The Courtney Massengales have run off the Sam Damons. IOW, the staff pukes are running the show.

I had the unfortunate experience of having a great staff officer as a CO. He nearly crashed a tac eval with his incompetence in the field.

74 posted on 08/28/2022 7:39:13 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: ansel12
I worry about the endurance of our military, what happens when they are getting worn down by lack of air support, lack of fuel and trucks and helicopters, front line troops going days without food getting through, and running out of ammunition, units being overrun, entire divisions being wiped out. Do these young people have the internal toughness to harden up and keep plodding into the mix losing ground, counterattacking, no sleep, bayonets even though they haven’t had a meal in two days, fighting with what they have, not what they had believed they would have always.

No they are not tough at all. We should coast on our reputation for a while. Hopefully our leaders are smart enough so we won't be seeking a major conflict anytime soon. But sometimes you have to fight (Civil War, WW2). It'll be interesting to see what happens by then. Our military was small during peacetime just before Pearl Harbor but we were able to mobilize relatively quickly.

75 posted on 08/28/2022 8:03:54 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

We are checkmated in so many ways when it comes to our military, for instance, the draft, if it was implemented it would only serve the left, as they used it to accelerate the rush to 50% female and all the other quotas they desire, it would not be used to turn over a mass of 18 and 20-year-old males for the drill sergeants to reshape in a few months.

I know people talk about a war with China being of limited size on land and mostly Air and Sea, but things could break that package and turn it into a much larger conflagration that involves the Army destroying land battles that we are talking about, that is one reason I want reduced threats and stronger allies on our flanks and rear.

You may have seen me mention this before, even several times perhaps, but when Pearl Harbor happened, Reagan had almost 5 years in the Reserves and my dad was in the Navy in Borneo.


76 posted on 08/28/2022 8:41:26 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I didn’t mean to drag you into a discussion, and I generally really dislike getting into wordy exchanges, I guess I am mostly just thinking (or complaining) out loud but this has just about exhausted my writing energy, I kind of wish some of the history we are living through would have come along later, but all times are rough in their own way.


77 posted on 08/28/2022 8:48:54 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12
the draft, if it was implemented it would only serve the left, as they used it to accelerate the rush to 50% female and all the other quotas they desire, it would not be used to turn over a mass of 18 and 20-year-old males for the drill sergeants to reshape in a few months.

You are correct that it will be political and the Left will use it as a tool for their nefarious purposes. They may target Southern boys and reeducate them. They are not exactly with the program we are seeing happening in our country right now. The draft is one way of "fixing that".

78 posted on 08/28/2022 8:49:29 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: DFG

Yeah, right.

One of those was with me in Basic. Somehow, he finished anyway.

I seriously doubt he made it back from Iraq, and I’m not talking about the Iraqi army.

This is just another symptom of THE cancer.


79 posted on 08/28/2022 8:53:15 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: ansel12
Today we exceed 335 million people and we can’t find the men.

No red blooded kid wanta to enlist in the USA Army under these circumstancses. IT'S ABOUT GOING WOKE. Get it?

80 posted on 08/28/2022 9:01:44 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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