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2 Air France pilots suspended after fighting in cockpit
AP via Yahoo ^ | 08/28/2022 | AP

Posted on 08/28/2022 11:17:39 AM PDT by DFG

Fisticuffs in the cockpit, leaving a leaky engine running while cruising over Africa -- Air France pilots are under scrutiny after recent incidents that have prompted French investigators to call for tougher safety protocols.

Two Air France pilots were suspended after physically fighting in the cockpit on a Geneva-Paris flight in June, an Air France official said Sunday. The flight continued and landed safely, and the dispute didn't affect the rest of the flight, the official said, stressing the airline’s commitment to safety.

Switzerland’s La Tribune reported that the pilot and co-pilot had a dispute shortly after takeoff, and grabbed each other by their collars after one apparently hit the other. Cabin crew intervened and one crew member spent the flight in the cockpit with the pilots, the report said.

News of the fight emerged after France’s air investigation agency, BEA, issued a report Wednesday saying that some Air France pilots lack rigor in respecting procedures during safety incidents.

It focused on a fuel leak on an Air France flight from Brazzaville in the Republic of Congo to Paris in December 2020, when pilots rerouted the plane but didn’t cut power to the engine or land as soon as possible, as leak procedure requires. The plane landed safely in Chad, but the BEA report warned that the engine could have caught fire.

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TOPICS: Travel
KEYWORDS: airfrance; bea; brazzaville; cockpit
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1 posted on 08/28/2022 11:17:39 AM PDT by DFG
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To: DFG

This has to be a first!


2 posted on 08/28/2022 11:19:55 AM PDT by bosco24 (EOD)
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To: DFG

Akmed vs Pierre?


3 posted on 08/28/2022 11:20:40 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: DFG
Must've taken lessons from this guy....and, crew.....


4 posted on 08/28/2022 11:22:47 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: DFG

Whichever pilot violated safety procedurse should have been immediately fired.


5 posted on 08/28/2022 11:23:57 AM PDT by jimwatx
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Need to put a flatulence indicator..someone probably cut the cheese in closed quarters.


6 posted on 08/28/2022 11:24:28 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: SgtHooper

Could have been a cat fight. Brigette and Suzette?


7 posted on 08/28/2022 11:24:57 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: DFG

Pilots are the some of the unhappiest people I’ve met, they b!tch about everything.


8 posted on 08/28/2022 11:24:58 AM PDT by DallasBiff (Kamala is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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To: jimwatx

Forget the fuel leak, it’s a miracle the plane landed safely in Chad.


9 posted on 08/28/2022 11:26:16 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: DFG

It’s like a Gary Larsen cartoon.


10 posted on 08/28/2022 11:27:57 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: DFG

Head Stewardess turns on the mike to get their attention:
“Boys! Boys! That’s enough. Jacques, you will continue the flight without further interruption.
Phillipe! You will sit in the Economy Section and complete this Coloring Book. There will be no further incidents during this flight.
Is that clear to you both?”


11 posted on 08/28/2022 11:32:35 AM PDT by lee martell ( )
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To: DFG

The “French” pilots aren’t named. For a reason I am sure.


12 posted on 08/28/2022 11:35:09 AM PDT by libh8er
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Flying over Africa on the Geneva to Paris route I think they were lost


13 posted on 08/28/2022 11:35:44 AM PDT by Jolla
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Fighting in the cockpit flying over Africa on a Paris-Geneva flight.

Flunked Geography 101.


14 posted on 08/28/2022 11:36:28 AM PDT by 353FMG
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Switzerland’s La Tribune reported that the pilot and co-pilot had a dispute shortly after takeoff, and grabbed each other by their collars after one apparently hit the other. Cabin crew intervened and one crew member spent the flight in the cockpit with the pilots, the report said.

Cherchez la femme!

15 posted on 08/28/2022 11:40:12 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. )
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It focused on a fuel leak on an Air France flight from Brazzaville in the Republic of Congo to Paris in December 2020, when pilots rerouted the plane but didn’t cut power to the engine or land as soon as possible, as leak procedure requires. The plane landed safely in Chad, but the BEA report warned that the engine could have caught fire.

I will cut them some slack here as there are lots of places in Africa you would not want to land. And they landed safely after all.

16 posted on 08/28/2022 11:41:12 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. )
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To: 353FMG; Jolla
Two separate flights and two separate incidents.

Haven't flown Air France in a decade and never really liked them.

17 posted on 08/28/2022 11:43:10 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. )
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To: BenLurkin

“It’s like a Gary Larsen cartoon”.

Pilot to co-pilot: “What’s a mountain goat doing up here in the clouds”?


18 posted on 08/28/2022 11:45:56 AM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: DFG

“There’s no fighting in here! This is the cockpit!”


19 posted on 08/28/2022 11:49:18 AM PDT by thesharkboy (Charter member of the Basket of Deplorables)
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To: DallasBiff
Pilots are the some of the unhappiest people I’ve met, they b!tch about everything.

I know three pilots. One was a bit cranky, but he had an eye for detail and brooked no nonsense. Made great moneyt flying into East Germany. I would trust him with a plane filled with 200 people any time. Ironically he died at 90 after falling off his bicycle in 95 degree weather in rural Connecticut.

Another one is extremely mild and helps me with the coffee and doughnuts after church. Really nice guy.

The third one is my best man's brother and my former classmate on college. Very mild and calm, but smart.

I wouldn't pigeonhole pilots.
20 posted on 08/28/2022 11:49:30 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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