It’s one if the things that concerns me with standard colonoscopies. Strangely, although you can choose multiple levels of sedation, doctors I’ve contacted only want to give you the most. When I’ve asked for light sedation, I’ve been turned away.
Re: Light Sedation requests by the patient being refused by the operating doctor.
Perhaps it has been the experience of most doctors that even when the patient directly requests light sedation, should this patient experience high levels of pain and discomfort during the procedure, the operating physician will still be held culpable to some degree. “I’m just your patient. You should have known I could not deal with that high and sustained level of pain. Nobody could!”
**I have gone through several surgeries over the last 10 years. VA Hospitals. I’ve experience general anesthesia and localized Pain Blocks. I have no real complaints thus far. I consider myself a Blessed Man for so much to go so well.
I demanded zero sedation and zero medication for mine. And I got it. Makes me wonder what’s wrong with all the pussies out there. It was not painful.
I have a very strong suspicion the doctors want the patients asleep for their own benefit not for the benefit of the patient. For example, imagine a doctor screws up a procedure and accidentally causes an injury. They don’t want to deal with a fully aware and alert patient.
Maybe because they were all jabbed?
At the VA I insisted on no drugs and they complied, but I had to argue.
It’s not at all a surprise to me that people who are sick enough to require ICU are more at risk for other ailments. Is dementia the only one?
For about a week, I treated myself at home, had groceries delivered and drank a lot of chicken broth before graduating to soup and finally solid food. Finally, on the 6th day, I went in for a drive in Covid test. By the time they called me the next day to tell me the result was negative, I was mostly back to normal.
About two weeks later, I had an appointment with the family sawbones. He had the test results and would not confirm whether or not I had Covid, but asked if I had the symptoms. When I related my experience, he stated I should have gone to the ER as my wife suggested, but asked if there was anything more to the self-treatment I just described. I said there was a certain horse medicine that I'd bought at Agway and kept on hand just in case there was such an occasion. He looked at me as said "You know I can't approve that, but I won't argue with your result."
Because they NEVER LET YOU SLEEP the whole time you are in there.
Selecting for patients with serious illness that require prolonged ventilation and sedation would seem to result in more episodes of hypoxia. Strokes, infections, cardiac disease etc.
I U hospitalization says you had serious disease going on…..Stroke or some other life threatening problem. You need d extra watching and a higher level of care
IF it were caused by the hospital stay then they ought to look at the CCU outcomes as well
This is just a stupid “look at what I found” by some nut scratcher
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That’s interesting because I wanted the deep sedation after having the misfortune of light sedation for my first one.
What agony.
I had to actually switch doctors to find one who would guarantee deep.
Does this imply the illness was exactly the same for ICU/non-ICU stays? Could it be that the illness that required an ICU stay started the dementia?
As people get older they have a greater chance of knee and hip surgeries. Those and other operations require deep sedation and are often preceded by a visit to the ER or ICU.
It’s not just the meds its also the lighting and the non-stop activity in ICU. Messes with circadian cycles and need for sleep. Can lead to something called “ICU Psychosis.”
I knew someone who went into the hospital of sound mind, had a major surgery, and by the time the anesthesia had worn off was in ICU psychosis. Behaved completely incoherently, like a Hollywood depiction of a someone in an insane asylum, and stayed that way for three months. Then snapped out of it and walked out of the hospital as normal as rice pudding.
FWIW, the USSR found sleep deprivation was the most effective form of “enhanced” interrogation because it breaks down the natural state of mind.
I have no doubt that sedation has long term effects on the mind. The sedation or something else the happens during sedation....reduced blood flow to the brain or other drugs used during procedures. (E.g.,Curare to calm down the muscles in your intestines.)
I know the immediate effects; You wake up feeling emotionally and mentally flat afterwards and your conscious self rummages around trying to find memories and associated feelings that you know you had but are now gone. If your mind was a city while you slept public works tore down and leveled older familiar neighborhoods and you wake up to the equivalent of Detroit. Or there is an void in the library stacks of your mind that that lets you know that the books of a memory or emotions or a group of memories are missing but not the subjects or author or title.
You begin to get some back with time (weeks...months) and its usually better to live impaired than die in a life threatening emergency that requires emergency sedation.
Less sugar, healthy living, exercise, being outdoors and off the computer seem to be helpful.
Among other things I have been using creatine monohydrate (to help retain muscle mass) and Occasionally I will suddenly reconnect to old emotions or memories of emotions that I was not even aware were missing. Exercise or the Creatine? I think the Creatine more than the exercise, so I pass that along.
I know many people can’t help it-—we all sometimes have to go to a hospital.
But my view has been that whenever possible stay as far away from hospitals as you can. Yes, some surgeries may improve your quality of life in the short term. But . . .
I know one middle aged man, went in for “routine” intestinal work, died on the table.
My cousin had a knee surgery, didn’t work, had to remove his kneecap, didn’t work, he got a staph infection and they had to remove his leg from the knee down.
Another friend went in for knee replacements. Rights side, fine. Left side, developed infection, had to remove the replacement, put in an anti-infection piece, take it out, put in the new knee #2.
My circle of friends isn’t that big. The lesson I took from that is don’t go to the hospital ever unless absolutely necessary.