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Bloody standoff at Ruby Ridge that left 3 people dead started 30 years ago today
Penn Live ^

Posted on 08/23/2022 6:35:49 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe

On Aug. 21, 1992, Randy Weaver, Kevin Harris, Sammy Weaver and dog Striker were walking on a road in the Kaniksu National Forest of Idaho.

The location, Ruby Ridge, 30 years ago, became a bloody battleground between Randy Weaver and U.S. Marshals and the FBI who were looking for him because he was suspected of selling two, illegal sawed-off shotguns to a government informant.

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To: crz

All of it happened under ‘pappy’ Bush


21 posted on 08/23/2022 7:56:39 AM PDT by LibertyWoman (America, the Handwriting is on the Wall. )
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To: suthener

“The ATF set him up. Federal Marshalls killed his son. The FBI shot him and his friend, and killed his wife.”

Let me add...

The ATF set him up. Federal Marshalls killed his son. The FBI shot him and his friend, and killed his wife, a moving target, while she was holding their newborn baby.

They started by killing the dog.

NEVER FORGET Ruby Ridge and Waco.

Ruby Ridge, Waco, YOUR HOUSE and family.


22 posted on 08/23/2022 7:58:13 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: Tench_Coxe

I will NEVER forget the name of the FBI HRT sniper, Lon Horiuchi. Also at WACO.....

BTW...... HRT means Hostage RESCUE Team.....exactly WHO was hostage and WHO got saved in either Ruby Ridge OR Waco?


23 posted on 08/23/2022 8:01:10 AM PDT by Gaffer (Infidel, and proud of it!)
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To: Tench_Coxe

Thanks for the reminder. The ANGER swells up in me with this reminder.

How could this happen in AMERICA?

Then AGAIN at Waco!


24 posted on 08/23/2022 8:04:48 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: Fido969

There are ALWAYS instances of bad actors, everywhere in all things. You referred to anecdotal, unverified chatter. True? Maybe, maybe not.

What you say can be said of any group of government people.

But anecdotes do not make for evidence of a hidden agenda.

The link I posted in #11 reveals FBI stopped recruiting from the military and law enforcement, lowered standards, and started recruiting lefties. In other words, a targeted agency was politicized. That’s an AGENDA, not anecdotal chatter.

We have to have some sort of FBI. What it needs now is weeding out, retraining, raising standards.

Rudy Giuliani did the impossible. He took a very dangerous city and made it safe. How?

As Rudy said himself, TRAINING.

Our FBI needs a whole different training curriculum with a sugnificant raising of standards. They should be allowed to resume hiring from military and law enforcement. Whoever it was that stopped recruiting from these sources needs to be outed and questioned.


25 posted on 08/23/2022 8:08:14 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: skeeter

Yeah, the bastards tried to paint the Weavers as “white separatists” solely because they lived rural.


26 posted on 08/23/2022 8:30:29 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Fido969

Yep. Top to bottom.


27 posted on 08/23/2022 8:55:40 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Hostage
You referred to anecdotal, unverified chatter.

Here are some more "anecdotes" for you:

Billy Bulger, and 6 FBI agents on his payroll.

Bugging and threatening Martin Luther King

Hoover's politically motivated investigations

Framing Richard Jewell

Misidentifying Anthrax culprit

Missing the Boston Bombers (although the Russians were screaming at us to look at them) and 9/11.

Involved in Ruby Ridge and Waco

Comey lying to Congress

Andrew McCabe lying

Michigan kidnapping plot

FISA warrant lies

Steele Dossier

Strzok and Page's "insurance policy"

Hunter laptop

Hillary emails

FBI Crime lab scandal

Mass shooters "on the FBI radar"

Mar-a-Lago warrant

... Just some "anecdotal, unverified chatter," I guess.

28 posted on 08/23/2022 9:03:22 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Tench_Coxe

How many “modified” guns are in inner cities across this nation AS WE SPEAK?

Yet the FBI does nothing about that.


29 posted on 08/23/2022 9:05:05 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Fido969

No.

Everything from “Comey lying to Congress” and after is NOT CHATTER.

It’s AGENDA.

You listed 18 incidents of which 11 are agenda driven.

Those 11 agenda driven incidents all happened in the last 5 years

The previous 7 incidents happened over 50 years.

If those incidents accurately represent history, that’s a current incidence rate of more than 2 per year to an incidence rate of 1 per 7 years.

You’re hiding out in the dunce corner, not learning. Not learning is a symptom if the illness of stupidity.

What’s happening in the last 5 years is quite different than what happened in the 50 years before.

The difference is at root a change from isolated incidents to consequences of an agenda.

Whereas before, certain corrupt FBI offices near the top “took care of business”, the patterns now reveal outside influences throughout government. That agenda is precisely described as a “Marxist Color Revolution.”

Once Marxism is cleared out, the Bureau, or whatever replaces it, will go back to isolated incidents of corruption. There will always be corruption to some extent. The goal is to minimize it through training and raising standards.


30 posted on 08/23/2022 9:31:06 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

Sorry, my mistake. The FBI was as pure as the driven snow before 5 years ago.

My bad.


31 posted on 08/23/2022 9:49:52 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: Fido969

Don’t be a smartass. No one said they were pure.

The reality is there will be government offices.

The reality is the government will have an investigative arm.

The reality is there will always be incidents of corruption.

The goal is to minimize corrupt practices to as close to zero as possible.

By the way, that was a good list you put together.


32 posted on 08/23/2022 9:59:43 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Pikachu_Dad; Chode; SkyDancer; Salamander; carriage_hill; Lockbox; MtnClimber; nascarnation; ...
He also kept Randy Weaver from getting murdered by a fedscum robot that was bringing a phone to the cabin so the HRT (Hostage Rescue Reduction Team) the phone was rigged to fire a Shotgun round when the handset was taken off the hook.

Bo also stopped the fedz from dropping a Fuel Bladder with a trigger device to explode the Bladder full of Fuel when it was dropped from a helicopter onto the Weaver Cabin. Bo alerted the Media on sight of the plan, causing the fedz to abort the mission.

33 posted on 08/23/2022 11:19:03 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !7)
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To: Gaffer
BTW...... HRT means Hostage RESCUE Team..

That really stands for Hostage Reduction Team.

34 posted on 08/23/2022 11:23:37 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !7)
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To: fuente
They left out the part where they were setting Weaver up to force him to be an informant on a group of White Supremacist types and he refused and resisted their pressure so they were moving to arrest him. Classic FBI entrapment.

Yup. They never seem to mention how incredibly evil the FBI is. Ruby Ridge was the thin that woke me up to how out of control the feral government is.

35 posted on 08/23/2022 12:14:15 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Fido969
This isn’t just “at the top”.

Yup. It has been quite obvious for decades now.

36 posted on 08/23/2022 12:18:25 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Hostage
Once Marxism is cleared out, the Bureau, or whatever replaces it, will go back to isolated incidents of corruption. There will always be corruption to some extent. The goal is to minimize it through training and raising standards.

Wow. I'd like some of whatever it is that you're smoking. lol

37 posted on 08/23/2022 12:22:11 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: mabarker1
That really stands for Hostage Reduction Team.

Indeed. Have they ever successfully saved a hostage? I know that for many, many years they hadn't. They had a perfect record of killing every single hostage, or enabling their deaths.

38 posted on 08/23/2022 12:24:10 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: zeugma

Why do you feel the need to be a smartass?

Everything that was written in the post you responded is factually correct and true.

Just as stores grapple with shoplifting, they will never eliminate it completely.

So it is with certain persons in government positions who think that laws don’t apply to them.


39 posted on 08/23/2022 12:29:07 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Tench_Coxe
More people were murdered in Chicago last week. I suspect democrats won't pour salt into those wounds.
40 posted on 08/23/2022 12:42:09 PM PDT by GOPJ ( “...threat to democracy” is shorthand for ... "threat to Democrats". -- Daniel Greenfield)
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