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How cold did it get in WW2 bombers? WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES:
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Posted on 08/23/2022 5:54:19 AM PDT by daniel1212

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So many hardships endued, lives risked, and lost, in helping to save a country from a wicked madman. Yet multitudes of their physical successors chose to go to war with God and work to destroy this nation from within, while a relative remnant of true Christians seek to save souls as part of the larger spiritual war.

Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. (2 Timothy 2:3)

1 posted on 08/23/2022 5:54:19 AM PDT by daniel1212
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When men were men.. the greatest generation !!


2 posted on 08/23/2022 6:01:05 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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We’ve come a long way to maternity flight suits.


3 posted on 08/23/2022 6:02:07 AM PDT by skeeter
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Today, the morons in the defense department think the greater outrage is the term “crewman”


4 posted on 08/23/2022 6:10:38 AM PDT by wny
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I’ve personally spoken to guys from the WW2 museum and the 8th air force museum.

The stories they tell are horrible, especially Black Week.


5 posted on 08/23/2022 6:15:53 AM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2008 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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Is there much doubt that today’s generation would surrender to seek a false peace rather than accept such conditions and fight for the nation?


6 posted on 08/23/2022 6:19:46 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Giant meteor 2022!)
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When men were men.. the greatest generation !! ............... Nope, when boys became men in their mid to late teens. We had 16 yr. olds using their older brother’s birth certificates. May a couple even younger got away with it. (There was a young teen kid in the Navy, that made the headlines back then.)


7 posted on 08/23/2022 6:23:31 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (In politicians we get what we deserve, usually the best that money can buy, guaranteed.)
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Good stuff. While the article is focused on the European war, it is important to note that airmen on the Pacific side of the war faced the same difficulties at high altitudes. Even though they were mostly in the tropics, air temperatures at 30,000 feet were still well below zero.

Just finishing up Ian Toll's trilogy on the Pacific War. These books are highly recommended to get a better understanding of the war in the Pacific, especially as most WW2 histories is European-centric.

For instance, most people are familiar with the Enola Gay atomic bombing of Hiroshima led by Col. Tibbetts but how many know that the second atomic bombing mission to Nagasaki (Bockscar led by Maj. Sweeney) was riddled with problems and almost a complete disaster. Nagasaki was not even the primary target and as the Bockscar was nearly out of fuel, it had to make an emergency landing on Okinawa with just 7 gallons left in the tanks!

In fact, it was discussed initially bringing Maj. Sweeney up on court martial for what was considered a rash of bad decisions on Sweeney's part during the mission. But fortunately, the bombing itself was a success and brought the war swiftly to an end so it never came to be (fortunately, because Sweeney was a good man who did get his crew back safely in the end). This was not known until decades later.

Anyway, a really good set of books on the Pacific War by Ian Toll. Made for fascinating reading from page one.

8 posted on 08/23/2022 6:25:39 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (3,896.053 users on Truth Social)
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I lost a cousin, before I was born, who was a waist gunner. He is buried in Belgium.


9 posted on 08/23/2022 6:30:00 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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From these men of steel to this thing in less than 80 years.


10 posted on 08/23/2022 6:30:08 AM PDT by montag813
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As a young man, I worked with a man who was at the Chosin Reservoir. He survived the bleeding from his wound because it froze.

One tough SOB.


11 posted on 08/23/2022 6:30:45 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner
By Randall Jarrell

From my mother’s sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.


12 posted on 08/23/2022 6:33:07 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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When the ball turret jammed, and the landing gear collapsed, the ball turret gunner was turned into jelly.


13 posted on 08/23/2022 6:35:26 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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11 weeks of Marine Corps boot camp will straighten this lad out. At least the boot camp I went to back in the early 1980s on Parris Island.


14 posted on 08/23/2022 6:35:43 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (3,896.053 users on Truth Social)
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Correction: My cousin is buried in the Netherlands. His plane was shot down over Munster, Germany. Only the 2 waist-gunners were killed; tge surviving crew members were taken as prisoners. Charles had just turned 20.


15 posted on 08/23/2022 6:38:57 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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incredible article!
When 19 & 20 year old boys were MEN!

Thank you for sharing this with us.


16 posted on 08/23/2022 6:44:10 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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I knew a guy that had a photo album filled with photos of nose art on a lot of the bombers...photos that he took. The album also contained a safety pin from a bomb from each of his forty-some missions. He enlisted at 17.


17 posted on 08/23/2022 6:50:36 AM PDT by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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My grandpa was a corpsman in WW2 and Korea. He said Korea was the coldest he’s ever seen and he didn’t even know it could get that cold. He had to remove fingers, toes, feet, etc on a regular basis. He said if Chinese and Korean buets didn’t kill you, the cold will


18 posted on 08/23/2022 6:54:23 AM PDT by This_Dude
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I had two history teachers, in high school and college, tell me almost the same story of commanding tanks at the Yalu when the Chinese attacked. Both were lieutenants and expressed regrets about their command abilities. These were probably reactions to loss and being put in impossible conditions.

I was sorry I never got them together.


19 posted on 08/23/2022 7:01:39 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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My husband’s only maternal Uncle died in Switzerland after they got hit over Germany. Talked with other WW2 Vets who said just surviving the Bomber TAKE OFFS was a major fete, also.


20 posted on 08/23/2022 7:16:44 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The Chinese are teaching calculus to their 3rd graders while ours are trying to pick a pronoun.)
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