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Congress implies UFOs have non-human origins
The Hill ^ | MARIK VON RENNENKAMPFF

Posted on 08/23/2022 5:47:17 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: Drew68; RoosterRedux; dragonblustar; PIF
objects that travel from 0-Mach 20 in seconds, hover stationary in mid air, and then change direction instantly. They leave no exhaust and create no sonic boom.

Objects that defy the laws of physics are not themselves physical at all. They are demons.

If they’re here, and their intent was hostile, I suspect they could wipe us out in a blink of the eye. That they haven’t might indicate they’re just curious observers.

Rather, God permits their incursions but limits their damage.

For a scholarly study, see Lights in the Sky & Little Green Men: A Rational Christian Look at UFOs and Extraterrestrials.


41 posted on 08/23/2022 8:59:42 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (“And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds.” Hebrews 10:24)
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To: Flick Lives
Sorry, meant to ping you to post #41.
42 posted on 08/23/2022 9:03:02 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (“And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds.” Hebrews 10:24)
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To: cgbg

Physics has a pretty dominant vote in any “emerging consensus”, and often doesn’t go along with the crowd.


43 posted on 08/23/2022 9:18:53 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Robert DeLong
It is my understanding that when anyone had anything that might be considered "evidence" the military (the Air Force specifically) took it to determine if it had any value re: national defense.

Here's a good video interview published yesterday re: this subject...

Ross Coulthart | UFO Disclosure, Admirał Wilson Leaks, Crash Retrievals, Congress & More

44 posted on 08/23/2022 9:24:52 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Objects that defy the laws of physics


So you are saying we know all the laws of physics? like they knew them 200 years ago? Just how much hubris do you have any have anyway?

Your insistence that they are “demons” just proves the point - not ready for contact.


45 posted on 08/23/2022 9:37:42 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: RoosterRedux

Well, since humans can’t fly, I’d say that’s a pretty good bet.


46 posted on 08/23/2022 9:42:44 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: RoosterRedux

“the military (the Air Force specifically) took it to determine if it had any value re: national defense.”

That is generally true.

However, we now know for example in the Trinity case, that it was the Atomic Energy Commission that seized and hoarded the information.

The whole notion of “national defense” in this context is a caricature of human stupidity.

If these things are a risk to one country they are a risk to all—there is nothing “national” about it!


47 posted on 08/23/2022 10:15:51 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: PIF

You protest too much. What is driving your stubborn insistence?


48 posted on 08/23/2022 10:18:11 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (“And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds.” Hebrews 10:24)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Whats driving your hubris?


49 posted on 08/23/2022 10:26:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

I have none—I gave it to Jesus. Anytime it recurs, the Holy Spirit slays it again.

To the extent you object to my ability to state readily ascertainable fact, I refer you to the excellent book I cited by an astrophysicist.

So, I’ve answered your question. Now, if you have the courage, it’s your turn.


50 posted on 08/23/2022 10:34:59 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (“And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds.” Hebrews 10:24)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Go away.


51 posted on 08/23/2022 10:57:03 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: cgbg

When the government (Air Force, AEC, or other) said “national defense value,” I think they meant value in the sense of using what we had in our possession as a weapon or as an aid in developing weapons against our adversaries (Russia, China).


52 posted on 08/23/2022 11:04:58 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: PIF

As you wish.


53 posted on 08/23/2022 11:15:22 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (“And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds.” Hebrews 10:24)
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To: Hebrews 11:6; PIF
Objects that defy the laws of physics are not themselves physical at all. They are demons.

In the absence of other information, they could well be demons.

However, things that defy the laws of physics are defying those laws in THREE dimensions.

Introduce another dimension and they could easily be following those physical laws.

I think they are, in fact, extraterrestrial aliens that have mastered four (or more) dimensions.

54 posted on 08/23/2022 11:19:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Lazamataz
extraterrestrial aliens that have mastered four (or more) dimensions

That is a perfect description of angels. The reason I qualified it as the angelic subset "demons" is that the behaviors reported do not comport with God's revealed will and are typical of resistance to it, which is what demons do.

The problem with your theory is lack of evidence; indeed, astrobiology is often scorned as "the only scientific endeavor which is completely devoid of data".

By contrast, we have an enormous abundance of evidence for angels (and for theophanies). So, the probabilities argue strongly for an angelic, hence demonic, explanation.

55 posted on 08/23/2022 11:36:48 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (“And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds.” Hebrews 10:24)
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To: RoosterRedux
Yes, I have heard these same claims, which I attribute as contrived as hiding behind documents classified as too sensitive to declassify as they might create sever harm to national security. There are ways that any of the classified documents can be released without jeopardizing national security or giving away methods of attainment.

I mean, who are we alerting with this evidence, aliens not from this earth? If they exist, i suspect they know they exist, don't you? 🙂

56 posted on 08/23/2022 11:46:56 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Hebrews 11:6
I don't think the terms "angels" and "demons" are quite adequate to explain what we are dealing with here.

Biblical angels are "messengers" of course but there are plenty of other types of holy spiritual beings besides angels that we know little about.

And demons is another confusing term. Are they the spirits of the Watchers OR are they spirits of the dead offspring of the fallen Watchers (i.e., spirits of the Nephilim).

The Bible isn't particularly clear here. Even the Ethiopian Book of Enoch doesn't tell us that the Nephilim spirits will return in such the manner as we are now seeing.

All very strange.

57 posted on 08/23/2022 12:14:23 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Exactly.


58 posted on 08/23/2022 12:18:36 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Romans 12:12)
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To: RoosterRedux
Exactly right. And I find it odd that all the beings, ( greys, nords, reptilians, etc…) all have problems with reproduction so they need our DNA. That had been the narrative for years. Now that narrative is changing by the stories from abductees saying that these being want to understand the nature of the universe…. Yeah, right.

Dr John Mack did an interview with the children in Africa about the mass sighting they witness. Several children reported saying the beings want us to take better care of the environment and don't embrace technology…
I thought that very odd sounding like something from the Democrats playbook.

59 posted on 08/23/2022 12:29:38 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Romans 12:12)
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To: PIF

I only came to that point of view after years of observation and reading materials on the subject.


60 posted on 08/23/2022 12:34:44 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Romans 12:12)
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