Posted on 08/12/2022 6:18:24 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
My father had an embolism in his sleep while he was receiving cancer treatment.
By the time he got to the hospital the bleed was over a third of his brain and was considered brain dead.
He had a living will and didn’t want to live on any machines so the decision to pull the plug in we already made easy by his wishes.
Regret his dying but not his death.
That ship’s done sailed.
Palliative sedation and/or the faithful execution of terms of living wills/advanced health care directives can and do result in denying the terminally ill sustenance or medication that is indispensable to sustaining life, and those both have been standard medical practices for decades.
I knew someone on Flight 800–RIP
MSNBC is full of news stories. Half say she is dead. Half say she is brain dead.
They must get permission from your family member(s), which they often guilt them into doing, even if you had told them not to.
I’m sorry you all had to go through that terrible ordeal.
Brain death is not a infallible determination. Many people can regain consciousness and tbhere is proof of same available.
If you do not want to be scavenged for your organs before you are truly dead, take your donation permission off of your driver’s license and destroy your living will.
Rather name a person you trust in a health care power of attorney to make decisions for you.
Have your loved ones remove organ donors permission also.
I have seen young adults be denied decision making by their parents pursuant to stautory surrogacy laws. This happens because donor permission trumps a loving parent who does not want to withdraw life support in our death dealing health care system.
It's only a doctor who can order meds and that's after blood work is done. In an extreme case of pain or injury a doctor might immediately order that. But if a patient is in respiratory distress sedating them can be tricky.
It may make things worse.
It is my hope that Jesus revealed himself to her, and she accepted Him as Lord and Savior, before she actually died. She had an absolutely horrible childhood, her father raping and sodomizing her throughout that time. Lord have mercy on a person raised with that type of abuse in their life. I doubt that wounded child inside ever really grows up. We won’t know until we get to Heaven how the Lord deals with such an one.
“They must get permission from your family member(s)”
They’re SUPPOSED to get permission. Family members have no idea what actually happens in the end. Organs are pretty valuable commodities.
Jim Carrey’s story is very similar. It’s about as tragic as what you state. Lots of Hollywood types have similar abuse stories.
I pray that the Lord had mercy on her as well, but He won’t be mocked either. I keep telling folks around me that your day of redemption is today because you might be dead tomorrow and then it’s too late. You can imagine the hateful responses I get.
Psalm 10:4
In his pride the wicked man does not seek Him; in all his schemes there is no God.
Psalm 74:18
Remember how the enemy has mocked You, O LORD, how a foolish people has spurned Your name.
Just wondering how many organ harvesting operations have you been involved with. Because your comment is incredibly inaccurate.
Having worked at a hospital where this was done, I can assure you that even with a donor card, the family is deeply involved. Now, that means the next of kin. I am sure there are cases where the spouse has one opinion and a sibling or parent has another.
And this stuff takes time. There are several teams involved. They don’t start hacking at the body. They are not ghouls who “get off” on this.
If you don’t approve of harvesting, that’s fine. But it is heavily regulated, incredibly respectful, and involves dozens of professionals.
They can charge you all during the weening process. Hospital incompetence killed my father and my younger brother. A hospital is generally the place you go to die, but not before they try to bill you into financial ruin.
“If you don’t approve of harvesting, that’s fine.”
I do approve! If it’s done ethically. (I basically don’t trust the ethics of almost anybody any more, especially in healthcare, since March 2020.)
Sometimes their ‘requests’ seemed annoying and unreasonable. Example, they wanted intubated patients to be on Room Air (21% O2) with no PEEP, and to maintain a Sat of 100% which though not impossible is challenging to attain. One has to tweak the respiratory rate and/or volumes/pressures. The Apnea tests I always disliked and I avoided them because of the usual ‘official finality’ of the outcomes. I was required to do a few over the years, but I did not like them. Not difficult, just unsettling.
Anecdote, once I took a young healthy looking man (30s) to a brain scan. They can take a while 1-2 hours even. I brought the patient back to the ICU and while I documented I saw that the Patient was declared expired WHILE WE WERE IN THE ELEVATOR.They declared him dead by computer. I am positive that was inappropriate. I hated going to those scans.
The let me bring him back to the room put him back on the regular vent and the family was called into a conference room. I walked by that room and I heard loud screams. that was actually just before I commenced my documentation. I was upset about that, but I am unable to explain exactly why.
All in all it was a different sort of Christmas week for that family.
Well, for starters, the organs are contaminated, polluted beyond cleansing with cocaine
She had herpes. To me that is a risk.
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