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Posted on 08/03/2022 2:39:14 PM PDT by lowbridge
A 5-year-old girl and a 36-year-old woman were killed by a fire inside a public housing apartment in Harlem that officials believe was caused by the exploding battery of an electric scooter. The blaze, which ignited in the pre-dawn hours of Wednesday, also seriously injured the girl’s father.
The tragedy marks the second and third fatalities in public housing caused by the volatile lithium-ion batteries that power e-bikes, scooters and hoverboards and that NYCHA is now considering banning from its 177,000 apartments. Last December, a tenant died in a fire caused by a battery at the Jacob Riis Houses in Lower Manhattan.
A fire department official said that an electric scooter, an e-bike and a hoverboard were all stored inside the East 129th St. apartment in the Jackie Robinson Houses by its entry door, so when the fire erupted shortly before 2:30 a.m. the child and two adults couldn’t escape. A firefighter was also transported to a hospital, officials said.
As THE CITY has reported, then-Department of Investigation Commissioner Margaret Garnett advised NYCHA management to ban these battery-driven devices from their properties back in 2018 after a fire at a Brooklyn development did serious damage to a hallway where a scooter was being stored.
More than three years later, NYCHA still didn’t accept DOI’s suggestion.
It wasn’t until April 2020 that the agency got around to beginning the process of adopting such a ban. And it wasn’t until this May when they began seeking public comment on it. After THE CITY raised questions about the proposed ban in July, NYCHA Chairperson Gregory Russ extended the public comment period.
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You cannot make this kind of thing up.
They are forcing American Citizens to stop using internal combustion powered transportation, but another government agency will outlaw green energy vehicles.
I'm telling you, everyone needs to read Ayn Rand's novella "Anthem."
Or so the Germans bigbob would have us believe.
“The technology will improve and this kind of fire will become as rare”
and we should be grateful to those pioneers sacrificing themselves to save the planet...
;-)
Not the same thing at all.
honestly, this is as stupid as leftists constantly pushing their anti-gun articles.
I can guarantee you that gasoline injures 100 times people than battery explosions.
As you pointed out, fire mishaps with gasoline are largely due to improper handling, storage, maintenance, or usage of the substance. These lithium-ion battery fires appear to occur spontaneously, with no sign of any impropriety associated with their us.
That is accompanied by the incredible difficulties involved with extinguishing them, the probabilities of increased danger of electrocution while doing so cause me to consider that EV’s are not yet ready for prime time until these, and all of the associated logistical and infrastructure headaches are worked out. This attempt to shoehorn us into this technology makes me smell a big fat Norwegian rat.
I think that turning over our energy grid and most of the means to power these vehicles to the tender mercies of the Chinese Communist Party utterly unthinkable and a danger to our national security.
“The determination comes after an electric space heater sparked a fire in a duplex unit, flooding the 19-story apartment building with smoke.”
All 17 victims of Bronx apartment fire, including 2-year-old, died of smoke inhalation, NYC medical examiner rules
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/11/us/new-york-bronx-apartment-fire-tuesday/index.html
A gasoline fire is relatively easy to put out. A lithium fire is not.
What a stupid comment
I agree with the idea that electrical vehicles have a certain niche value for specific applications. For fleet vehicles with specific fixed schedules that allow for periods of recharging when they are not in use, for commuters that own a garage with a level 1 or 2 charger that they can plug in overnight, even for light military vehicles where stealth is paramount, they have a place.
Even though the energy density of batteries is vastly lower then that of a comparable quantity of gasoline, the electrical motor is significantly more efficient at the transfer of the available power to the wheels then is a ICE vehicle. (80% efficient to 39% on average) But when operating power accessories like A/C, high wattage stereo gear, bright lights, wipers and other electrical gear, then the range is significantly reduced, as is the case in cold weather.
But for general use, they are utterly lacking in the flexibility of an ICE. Fuel can be containerized and bought to an out of fuel vehicle. This is especially important for the armed forces that would be operating in areas without an electrical infrastructure. An out of charge EV must be either put on a flatbed, or bought back to life with a generator fired by FOSSIL FUEL in a remote area, along with the amount of time required to obtain a useful charge length. EV’s also are up to 40% heavier then comparable ICE vehicles, owing to the weight of the battery pack, which will cause increased wear and maintenance costs on roads and bridge structures if they are widely adopted.
Again my main objection to EV’s is the attempt to force this technology upon us with federal subsidies and executive order edicts.
Gasoline won’t spontaneously combust.
Lithium Batteries handled properly can still combust.
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One of the bad things is that the chargers can have widely differing voltages yet interchange.
We walked into one where one was 12v and one was 60v. The 12v device got plugged into the 60v charger and it fried the battery but didn’t quite get to the point it caught fire. Sure stunk the place up.
There goes the climate control theory.
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