Posted on 08/01/2022 9:00:05 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
For some time I have wondered how to explain the cause of the Civil War in simple terms that are easy to understand. I now see that Ayn Rand did it years ago. Laws passed by a Northern controlled Congress routed all the money produced by the South into Northern "elite" pockets.
There was nothing preventing women from voting.
The states were allowed that - you know, states’ rights.
NJ women voted until some greedy bigot managed to pass a new law to bar them.
You are welcome.
All laws and taxes all states followed were in the Constitution, which the South had more than equal representation in authoring and passing.
That simply obfuscates the real issue. Only 4 states out of 11 made such statements in their articles of secession, and Paul Craig Roberts asserts they did it out of legal necessity.
Most states did not make such statements, and Virginia explicitly said that they were seceding because the Federal government had become tyrannical and oppressive in calling for war against states that wanted to leave.
You can find them on the internet with just a few clicks.
Yes, all the propaganda promoted by the corrupt powers that won the war are quite easy to find.
Finding the economic data that shows how much money the connected powerful "elite" in the North would lose if the South gained it's independence is quite hard to find, but in the economic records you will see the actual truth, because the numbers don't lie.
Who cares what she says?
People in power tend to use any excuse of which they can think to hold onto power.
It's always about power and money. It is never about concern for their fellow man.
Thanks for the heads-up. I’m near certain that whatever Ayn Rand said about the US Civil War did NOT favor slavocrat secessionists.
There is never one reason for a war of any sort.
Many, many things went into the start of our civil war.
I've noticed over the years that a whole lot of troubles are still coming out of Massachusetts. "Gay marriage" comes to mind.
A lot of people utilize the term "Massholes" to describe the people creating some of the crap coming out of Massachusetts.
South bashers always point out the 3/5 compromise counted but didn’t vote
Well women counted 5/5ths yet almost none were allowed to vote either side of the mason Dixon line
My family hails from a section of the NC Appalachians that seceded from the Confederacy. It was called Mayland. Mayland didn’t have any slaves and didn’t want to get in the war.
Both sides ruthlessly plundered Mayland and burned their homes. I’ve visited some of the caves where families hid out.
They deserved it
They were better than us morally
Just ask them
Course most northern freepers who delight in equating southern ancestry with nazis didn’t even have folks here in the fight unlike native southerners who have a fairly undiluted ancestry stream from 1600s on
These south bashers ancestry were too busy with taters or cobbling in Eastern Europe or north of the Baltic absorbing and fomenting collectivist messianic ideologies to bring over here with them to infect us in the way wokism does now
Fabians
Not the crooner
Ping.
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Tell it right. You are ignoring the fact that daddy pulled the gun first and acted like he was going to shoot them with it.
Of course the smart thing to do was shoot first with daddy aiming a gun at you.
The "gun" was the fleet of warships Lincoln sent to attack them at Charleston. Do you not know about the warships? Do you not know that Lincoln pulled the gun first?
It was still-in-office Dim president Buchanan who ordered federal troops to not leave federal forts that were in (or on the coast of) confederate land (most notably Fort Sumter at Charleston).
Major Anderson was stationed in Fort Moultrie, not Fort Sumter. Fort Sumter was not even finished and still had workmen there building structures to make it into a fort.
Anderson violently seized it in the middle of the night while destroying and burning everything useful at fort Moultrie. He committed the first belligerent act of the war.
And this after Secretary of War John Floyd had for months been telling the people of South Carolina that all the forts would be turned over to them.
But, hey, call it "northern aggression" if it makes you feel better.
It's the more accurate term. The North did indeed start the hostilities first. It was not a "Civil War" because no effort was made to take over the existing government, the only effort was to gain independence from it.
I love my home state of Alabama, but the south started the civil war.
I am not from any of the Southern states, and my family has no connection to the South. They did not arrive in this country until around 1900 and they did not settle in any of the Southern states.
Therefore I can be objective.
To almost the last man, I’ve come to learn one’s view of the war is informed by the inescapable tether of where they grew up/live. I’m curious as to what state you grew up/live in?
That looks inviting, and the nearest Waffle House is 300 miles away. There are a few diners around here that serve grits, so I try to re-create a WH breakfast, missing only the ambiance. WH is one of the first places I hit when I am in their territory.
No, population was counted, period. Still is.
The point was for the slave states to get some extra population counted for leverage in Congress.
So, no, females were always counted, so black slave females would be counted, too.
BTW, women could vote if the states chose to make it so. They had voted in NJ in the beginning.
I am aware of that. But when they got into power, they didn't try to end it through legal means, such as a constitutional amendment.
As with most lying politicians, not only did they make no effort to get rid of slavery legally, they actually voted on a constitutional amendment to make slavery permanent. It's called the "Corwin Amendment."
Republican Abraham Lincoln was elected President....
And he urged the states to pass the permanent slavery amendment known as the "Corwin Amendment."
So with all of them working to make slavery permanently legal, how anti-slavery could they be?
Never cared for WH. It’s a cheap dive in every way.
IHOP is a step above or more from WH.
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