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1 posted on 07/26/2022 5:35:40 AM PDT by Red Badger
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A small piece of tape on front end under the wrap. Normal NASCAR would of fined the team, not taken away the win. NASCAR’s policy for decades was to not change winning after the fans went home, guess there’s a new sheriff in town 🤣


2 posted on 07/26/2022 5:43:01 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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Nascar lost me a few years ago with the constant rule changes and then the wokeness. Watched a little the other day and it’s even close to the same. Sad to watch this sport go by the wayside.


5 posted on 07/26/2022 5:48:00 AM PDT by Solson (DeSantis/Hawley 2024!)
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NASCAR died 20 years ago. What it is now is unrecognizable from the halcyon days in 1990


6 posted on 07/26/2022 5:51:57 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (The democRATS are not looking to govern, they intIend to RULE.)
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It was the M&M’S FAN APPRECIATION 400. I’m surprised Kyle Bush wasn’t given the win somehow.


7 posted on 07/26/2022 5:57:27 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Someone must’ve referred to the car as, ‘She’ when she identifies as a ‘He!’

All cars are female. Everyone knows that. The ‘science’ is settled!

*SNORT*


10 posted on 07/26/2022 6:08:11 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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Well, as the old saying goes “If you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’ “.

As meticulous as the teams have to be in assembling and preparing these cars, if something is out of place, even if it is something just taped over, it probably is cheating.


12 posted on 07/26/2022 6:13:31 AM PDT by Roadrunner383 (;)
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These new-this-season cars have areas teams aren’t supposed to even touch. They did that and more. No one yet knows exactly what, but it couldn’t have happened to a more charming pair of drivers. /s


14 posted on 07/26/2022 6:16:40 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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Gibbs Racing did NOT appeal the decision by the Monday noon deadline — they knew they were cheatin’


15 posted on 07/26/2022 6:18:29 AM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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My question is:

What did the 2” x 5” piece of tape on either side of the front facia (and under the vinyl wrap...) do to the handling/speed of the cars? It was 0.012” thick, so how did it change the aero effects.

That is the mystery.


19 posted on 07/26/2022 6:25:10 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill (Wind energy windmills remove the energy from the wind, which causes global warming.)
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NOOSECAR is the apex of liberalism where everyone has to be the same.


20 posted on 07/26/2022 6:26:48 AM PDT by CodeToad (“If you are receiving this transmission, you are the resistance.”)
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I don't have much sympathy for the Gibbs’ Team on getting the two cars DQ’d. IMHO, it was a deliberate cheat to gain an edge in performance.

A theory….

First of all, aerodynamic forces acting on the cars at speed are enormous. Factors of concern are drag and downforce. Drag slows the car down and downforce keeps the car from flying into the air.

This small, dinky and apparently hidden aerodynamic mod smacks of something identified via numerical analysis computer modeling. Big $$$ are involved in performing this level of computer analysis. Literally millions of calculations are done to measure airflow, drag and downforce. Areas to modify to improve an aero property are identified. There could be secondary mods as well such as the suspension. Note that the two cars were sent to a NASCAR R&D facility for investigation. Big red flag.

If this theory turns out accurate then the Gibbs Team is likely staring at a whopper of a penalty. There would be pain.

26 posted on 07/26/2022 6:56:59 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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Thank you Jesus I and wife stopped watching NASCAR and going to NASCAR races nearly a decade ago.


31 posted on 07/26/2022 7:33:16 AM PDT by cranked
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The tape pieces were 2” x 5” Packing Tape placed at the edge of the Front Brake Cooling Duct Intakes on the body of the car and then the Wrap (for those that don’t know the cars don’t get painted anymore, they are wrapped in vinyl using a Heat Gun) was applied over the tape.

Someone had to be VERY careful with that Heat Gun to not melt that packing tape while working the Wrap. The Team knew what they were doing and that it was illegal to do so.

JGR is not going to appeal the decision by NUTSCAR.

While people think that the little bit of tape is no big deal it actually is a huge deal. A few millimeters of covering up the Brake Cooling Duct Intake makes a big difference in the Downforce and Handling as well as Fuel Milage especially at a Track like Pocono.

Personally speaking this goes a long way in bolstering My opinion that hamlin and baby busch are cheating little weasels and some or most of the Fab Shop/Team are as well.

How far up the food chain this goes at JGR ?

We may never know. I’ll say at least as far as the Car Chief and Crew Chief, the Aerodynamicists/Computer Simulation and Wind Tunnel Crew members as well as the Wrapping Crew and of course the 2 weasel boys. I will speculate that Coach Gibbs was not in the “loop” but I could be wrong.


34 posted on 07/26/2022 8:47:19 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !)
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The new generation car has provided unparalleled equity leaving more in the driver’s control thus they are being more strict


35 posted on 07/26/2022 8:49:01 AM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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Denny had already been penalized for failing prerace inspection and lost his pit location


40 posted on 07/26/2022 8:59:24 AM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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it’s always been part of the game...

joe gibbs racing is why nascar standardized the pit guns a few years ago...

they researched and developed a higher rpm pit gun for changing tires and other teams cried foul...

joe gibbs was also the first to recruit professional sports players for his nascar pit crews...


48 posted on 07/26/2022 9:41:46 AM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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50 posted on 07/26/2022 10:25:02 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !)
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Put bureaucrats in charge and this is what you get.


51 posted on 07/26/2022 10:27:27 AM PDT by anton
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Some online sites are suggesting NASCAR will go all electric next year.


54 posted on 07/26/2022 10:36:47 AM PDT by CodeJockey (I use the pronoun "it" so I don't offend the left.)
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This is just me but I get really bored watching cars go around in circles...I last maybe ten minutes then I off to watch something else!!!!
55 posted on 07/26/2022 10:39:28 AM PDT by ontap
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