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To: rlmorel; joshua c; V_TWIN

I observe and post a finding. I do not endorse EV’s.

I do however have the greatest respect for Elon Musk and his three Giga plants capable of pouring out millions of Tesla vehicles per year. His pickups are already presold by thousands before actual production has started. Elon Musk ranks with the very greatest American industrialists.

First. EV’s and Teslas will not eliminate internal combustion engines in America. Elsewhere is a different story especially for automobiles.

All the objections raised here are historical and not applicable to current Tesla production. The EV disruption is already a fact in China and in Norway. Both are different than here. With the maturation of the Tesla Giga plant in Germany, and the announced $9k lowering of price, there will be large Tesla sales gains in Europe. BMW and VW are actually threatened

Tesla is not the sales leader in China but is near that threshold with a Chinese manufacturer currently in the lead. The influence of very large scale population lockdowns is difficult to evaluate. From China, Tesla has a tremendously large Asian and Pacific rim market. Far greater than the USA

So, with GM and Ford continuously losing market share and unable to compete, these Deeetroit/UAW giants are in for a lot of existential trouble.

My point is that the existing competition is not capable of turning the rising Tesla tide


94 posted on 07/22/2022 7:57:06 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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From China, Tesla has a tremendously large Asian and Pacific rim market.

This seems unlikely.

China will simply steal Tesla tech, as it has done with numerous other companies.

The Chinese made version will be cheaper, and/or the Tesla production in China will be hampered/hamstrung by the CCP.

It is how the CCP works.

105 posted on 07/22/2022 8:07:49 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: bert

I have respect for Musk even though I think he is a whack-job, has his mouth on the teat of both Communist China and the US Government, and has some completely weird views on trans-humanism and such, but...he gets things done. That counts for a lot.

I don’t think he is a conservative, but I appreciate his stance on Freedom of Speech. That counts for a lot.

So that said, I think Tesla’s are nice as long as you aren’t in it when it catches fire, and don’t have to pay with your own money (or MY money) for the vehicle.

It is nice to have an industrialist who can build something tangible instead of making his fortune on crappy software that people have to have (Gates) or running an online store (Bezos).


134 posted on 07/22/2022 2:12:20 PM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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