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The war on fossil fuels is concluding—and the good guys are losing
American Thinker ^ | 16 Jul, 2022 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 07/16/2022 4:14:29 AM PDT by MtnClimber

This is a war with many fathers, all having different goals, and one big loser: the Western way of life.

There are several entities that saw a benefit in declaring war on fossil fuel: The environmentalists who are so historically illiterate that they believe a world without fossil fuels will be a bucolic paradise, rather than a Hobbesian nightmare; the leftists who want to break the West to rebuild it as a socialist paradise; the Great Reset/New World Order crowd, which envisions happy, possession-free serfs; and the Chinese, who foresee a bloodless conquest of the West which, believe me, will not be anybody’s paradise. While the winner among these groups isn’t clear, the loser is coming into focus: Ordinary people across the Western world. The latest example comes from Germany.

In 2018, President Trump warned Germany, which was proudly shutting down its own coal production and refineries, not to become dependent on Russia’s oil and gas:

Reliance on a single foreign supplier can leave a nation vulnerable to extortion and intimidation. That is why we congratulate European states, such as Poland, for leading the construction of a Baltic pipeline so that nations are not dependent on Russia to meet their energy needs. Germany will become totally dependent on Russian energy if it does not immediately change course.

Germany and other European countries, basking in Greta Thunberg’s approval and wallowing in their virtue, sneered at Trump’s words and went their own way. And then, in 2022, Russia invaded Ukraine. There is no “I told you so” big enough to encompass Trump’s prescience.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: communism; energy; greenenergy; oil; petroleum
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To: HYPOCRACY

Haha. You thought the author was saying Germany was the good guys. That’s not what the author was saying. You totally missed the point.


61 posted on 07/16/2022 9:51:26 AM PDT by enumerated ( )
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To: one guy in new jersey

There are oceans of hydrocarbons on the moons of Jupiter and Saturn (and many other places). I doubt that there were ancient savannas and forests on these moons.


62 posted on 07/16/2022 10:11:32 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try. )
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To: MtnClimber

A Chinese “bloodless” conquest will be followed by extermination of great numbers of people. China has already said there is a necessity to capture North America and exterminate the population to free up the vast farmland China thinks it needs to feed its own population. China is every bit as race obsessed as the NAZIs were in favor of the Han or Great Chinese.


63 posted on 07/16/2022 10:27:16 AM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe >A<)
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To: central_va

Lest we forget the flight from reality by some

“Patriotism is the last resort of a scoundrel” Samuel Johnson


64 posted on 07/16/2022 10:38:01 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Pay strict attention to the word theory....
That means that this was made up in someone’s mind...
Without basis in scientific fact...
If you want to believe petroleum is made from dead plants, you are free to do so


65 posted on 07/16/2022 10:49:56 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: joe fonebone
I heard, years ago, that oil is not a fossil fuel and always questioned the theory that it is. I guess the Russians had to find a way to find oil in their own country so Stalin set his scientists on it. According to an article in the Canada Free Press (July 14, 2008):

To recapitulate, Stalin’s team of scientists and engineers found that oil is not a ‘fossil fuel’ but is a natural product of planet earth – the high-temperature, high-pressure continuous reaction between calcium carbonate and iron oxide – two of the most abundant compounds making up the earth’s crust. This continuous reaction occurs at a depth of approximately 100 km at a pressure of approximately 50,000 atmospheres (5 GPa) and a temperature of approximately 1500°C, and will continue more or less until the ‘death’ of planet earth in millions of years’ time. The high pressure, as well as centrifugal acceleration from the earth’s rotation, causes oil to continuously seep up along fissures in the earth’s crust into subterranean caverns, which we call oil fields. Oil is still being produced in great abundance, and is a sustainable resource – by the same definition that makes geothermal energy a sustainable resource. All we have to do is develop better geotechnical science to predict where it is and learn how to drill down deep enough to get to it. So far, the Russians have drilled to more than 13 km and found oil. In contrast, the deepest any Western oil company has drilled is around 4.5 km.

A team consisting of Russian scientists and Dr J. F. Kenney, of Gas Resources Corporation, Houston, USA, have actually built a reactor vessel and proven that oil is produced from calcium carbonate and iron oxide, as detailed on the Gas Resources website.

Quite frankly, I find that fascinating. Hey, I'm just an old lady who doesn't understand physics at all, but it sounds credible to me!

66 posted on 07/16/2022 1:32:57 PM PDT by sneakers (It's not the democraTIC party! It's the demoCRAT party! )
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To: sneakers; joe fonebone

Sorry, I should have put quotes around the part that starts with “To recapitulate, Stalin..... and ends with “Gas resources website”.


67 posted on 07/16/2022 1:35:04 PM PDT by sneakers (It's not the democraTIC party! It's the demoCRAT party! )
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To: mountainlion

They are doing the same to the oil industry. Once they succeed, oil will suddenly become the miracle fuel again and necessary for the function and survival of the planet.


68 posted on 07/16/2022 2:32:22 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Are vegetarian real vegetarian burgers or just fake meat?)
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To: RoosterRedux

I know who will win in the end, but it may get to be pretty rough going before we arrive there. Whether or not we will win against the people who would wreck our economy before then is still open to question.


69 posted on 07/16/2022 8:10:46 PM PDT by oldtech
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To: enumerated

The title of the piece says ‘The Guys are Losing’

This sure looks like losing to me...
“In other words, Germany is facing a total industrial collapse; meanwhile, the media continues to repeat the increasingly more laughable propaganda that Putin is losing the war.”

So if the good guys are losing and Germany is losing, can’t I infer that the author thinks Germany is the good guys?


70 posted on 07/16/2022 8:27:44 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: HYPOCRACY

Title says ‘The GOOD Guys are Losing’


71 posted on 07/16/2022 8:28:57 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: sneakers

Read about that years ago. Believe it’s called ‘Abiotic Oil’ and the Russians put a paper out on it in the 1960s.


72 posted on 07/16/2022 8:31:40 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: joe fonebone

“There is no such a thing as a fossil fuel”

Where is your PhD in petroleum geology from? I can tell your where mine is along with three master’s degrees and the three corresponding undergrads. That said I have worked on six of seven continents in nearly every major total hydrocarbon system on this planet. You are flat out wrong. Never once out of thousands, tens of thousands of oil and hydrocarbon liquids samples have I EVER not seen at least three of the five major.biological geochemical markers never once. This in addition to isotopic data showing a clear biological origin of those hydrocarbons. Please provide one professional white paper or industry journal or research paper peer reviewed with data showing a oil or liquid hydrocarbon that didn’t have biological makers I’ll wait.


73 posted on 07/16/2022 8:51:07 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III; one guy in new jersey
There are oceans of hydrocarbons on the moons of Jupiter and Saturn (and many other places). I doubt that there were ancient savannas and forests on these moons.

I'll be damned if you aren't right! "Titan’s surface organics surpass oil reserves on Earth"

74 posted on 07/16/2022 8:51:12 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: HYPOCRACY

That Russian paper was shredded by peer review. The isotopic ratios were all in line with having been in contact with the biosphere. Later when the technology progressed geochemical markers were proven to be biological as well. Yes I am a PhD petroleum geologist and have done geochemistry for more than two decades it made me a wealthy man. Liquid hydrocarbons are of biological origin. Primarily marine algae the signatures are conclusive, a smaller set is fresh water algae and diatoms or marine diatoms you can see the silica remains in thin sections in micrographs of source shales. A very small set of liquid hydrocarbons are from deltaic coaly sources those require very specific anaerobic conditions to have existed and the signatures are strong and unique. A single Soviet paper that was utterly debunked and shredded does not make for a ocean of mythical abiotic total hydrocarbon systems it just doesn’t.


75 posted on 07/16/2022 8:56:41 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: JD_UTDallas
Yes I am a PhD petroleum geologist and have done geochemistry for more than two decades it made me a wealthy man. Liquid hydrocarbons are of biological origin.

Explain Titan. See my post above yours.

76 posted on 07/16/2022 9:02:15 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Lazamataz

Lax we have been over this. Those “liquid” hydrocarbons are simple alkenes, linear chained C3 to C5 hydrocarbons that only exist due to the near absolute zero temps. If deep space. They were formed during the nebula phase of the solar system collapse to orbital motions. Having originally been free carbon and hydrogen atoms formed in the supernova that ashes are the solar system. The only reason they accumulated.in the outer planet’s is the cold keeps them from evaporating away into.gas and being stripped from the atmospheres by solar wind which is much less violent in the outer solar system. Earth lost all it’s primordial methane C1, ethane C2, propane C3, and butane C4, billions of years ago the solar wind stripped it off and blew it all to deep.space that process didn’t happen in the other solar system it’s too cold and too far from the sun. You can test oil and gas samples here on earth I have done thousands of them all over the planet they all contain the isotopes of carbon tl,oxygen and nitrogen that only can be formed on or.above the surface of the planet that’s just good geochemistry it’s conclusive. In addition to the chemical.signatures that match algae and bacteria in every single oil.sample. Let me repeated that EVERY SINGLE ONE bar none. You won’t find a PhD geochemist that will stand their career on proving otherwise because it doesn’t exist.


77 posted on 07/16/2022 9:04:22 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Jonty30

Yes, they can wear this “uniform” while they starve along with the rest of us.


78 posted on 07/16/2022 9:06:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Bus No. 2525)
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To: JD_UTDallas

My theory: Titan had dinosaurs.

Either way lets put a pipeline between Titan and Earth and harvest all the good juice.


79 posted on 07/16/2022 9:10:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

I’ll take your word for it. LoL.


80 posted on 07/16/2022 9:10:26 PM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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