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Classic Cars Are Greener Than Electric Vehicles: Study
yahoo.com ^ | June 23, 2022 | Steven Symes

Posted on 06/23/2022 12:57:38 PM PDT by grundle

According to Footman James' study, reality is far different because classic cars with those evil, gas-burning engines are better for the environment than new electric vehicles. The thing is people who believe the opposite just look at tailpipe emissions, behaving as if that’s everything in the equation. They don’t consider pollution generated by the manufacturing process.

In the study, Footman James mentions that in the UK a classic car on average is driven 1,200 miles a year and puts out 563 kg of CO2 as a result. But a new VW Golf is made by generating 6.8 tonnes of CO2e. Even worse, a Polestar 2 (a Swedish electric car) generates 26 tonnes of CO2 during the manufacturing process. That means you could drive your classic car for over 46 years before it generates as much CO2 as the “green” electric vehicle. Let that sink in for a moment.

Footman James rightly points out that within that 46-year period, the Polestar 2’s battery will need to be replaced, maybe even swapped for a new one twice or more. And what happens to the battery? Can it really be recycled? The answer for now is no. Meanwhile, the classic car keeps running without contributing significantly to a landfill.

I wish the study dug more into the human and environmental costs associated with the extraction of raw materials to build electric cars. There’s also the fact many of these minerals are mined in authoritarian countries like China and Russia where many accusations have been levied that slave labor is used in the process.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: carbon; carbonfootprint; carbonpropaganda; china; climatehoax; econuts; environment; evs; fakescience; globalwarming; lithium; mining; rareearthmetals; slavelabor
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1 posted on 06/23/2022 12:57:38 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Plus classic cars are way cooler looking and sounding, especially when they have large V8s.


2 posted on 06/23/2022 12:59:19 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: grundle

1,200 miles a year? Lots of people in the US put on that milage in a month.


3 posted on 06/23/2022 1:01:08 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: grundle

When I had classics, they were every day drivers that got 20,000 / year put on.

My ‘94 Roadmaster (not really a “classic” yet, when I had it had shockingly high numbers to fail emissions in Phoenix (though I don’t think CO2 was anyu different).


4 posted on 06/23/2022 1:01:35 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: Paleo Conservative

But rightly so, there have been numerous studies showing that electric cars are about 1.8% more enviromentally friendly that the average car. 500,000 lbs of dirt strip mined to create just one car battery. Please shipping, processing, etc.,


5 posted on 06/23/2022 1:04:00 PM PDT by mikelets456
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To: Paleo Conservative
Lots of people in the US put on that milage in a month.

Certain classic owners, especially those with rare, irreplaceable cars, drive them very little. Heck, some are trailer queens that arten't really driven at all, and they bring down the average.

My '65 Chrysler 300 2 door hardtop coupe was an everyday driver in the early oughts. So were my '66 Darts. My wife (who was then 23 years old and quite striking got lots of looks, especially in the 300).
6 posted on 06/23/2022 1:05:27 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: grundle

But making Electric Cars employs Hundreds of Thousands of Child Slaves, should they just be left to starve on the unemployment line?


7 posted on 06/23/2022 1:05:41 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: Paleo Conservative

350 miles per year.


8 posted on 06/23/2022 1:06:40 PM PDT by Born in 1950 (Anti left, nothing else.)
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To: grundle

This fits gas powered motorcycles as well as many models get 40, 50 and 60 miles per gallon.


9 posted on 06/23/2022 1:07:38 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Paleo Conservative

My 2 work Trucks average 60K miles each annually, but my wifes jeep I bought her in 2015 only has 28K miles on it.


10 posted on 06/23/2022 1:08:54 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: Paleo Conservative

For a 4 year period I did 1200 per week in my other life in the LA area. LA is a distant memory now.☺


11 posted on 06/23/2022 1:10:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Disambiguator

🥰👍


12 posted on 06/23/2022 1:10:38 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Just don’t let the insurer who underwrote your classic car insurance policy know...


13 posted on 06/23/2022 1:17:34 PM PDT by Demiurge2 (Define your terms!)
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To: Disambiguator
"Plus classic cars are way cooler looking and sounding, especially when they have large V8s."

That's for damn sure!


14 posted on 06/23/2022 1:20:40 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Paleo Conservative

The study is flawed, but yes if you track all the CO2 generated in manufacture and use, ICE cars are still greener by a long shot. Not even counting the battery generated waste. But who really cares, cars are about image and making yourself feel good about you.


15 posted on 06/23/2022 1:21:37 PM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: Dr. Sivana

I used to know a guy who raced — yes, raced — Duesenbergs. “That’s what it’s made for!”

Kinda like mailing a letter with an Inverted Jenny stamp.


16 posted on 06/23/2022 1:23:50 PM PDT by nicollo (the rule of law is not arbitrary)
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To: Bonemaker

A classic Olds 88 convertible vs something with four wheels that has faggot written all over it.


17 posted on 06/23/2022 1:26:08 PM PDT by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: D Rider

I’d be satisfied if a new R majority and president required EV owners to utilize ONLY so-called “green” generated electricity. At least they would legitimately pay for their advocacy and maybe the self-adulatory preening would abate.


18 posted on 06/23/2022 1:26:11 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: grundle

I want a muscle car.


19 posted on 06/23/2022 1:26:19 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (My body, my choice....but not when it comes down to unconstitutional "vaccine" mandates.)
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To: nicollo
I used to know a guy who raced — yes, raced — Duesenbergs. “That’s what it’s made for!”

Kinda like mailing a letter with an Inverted Jenny stamp.


Wow. That out-classics anything I've ever had. So everythime he raced it hard he probably peeled $5,000 of value off of his car.
20 posted on 06/23/2022 1:31:06 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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