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vanity ^ | June 22, 2022 | John Adams

Posted on 06/22/2022 10:31:03 AM PDT by JOHN ADAMS

I voted for Trump twice, and I’m a lawyer and I played a small role in his challenge to the results. My question for this board is: why shouldn’t we pick a winner? Trump lost. He lost the election and he lost, pathetically, in the post-election challenges. He lost those legal challenges before Trump-appointed judges as well Bush appointees, Obama appointees, and Clinton appointees.

He’s persuaded 40-something percent of the country but not matter what he does, he cannot – can not – persuade more people. He has not done so and will not do so. It may suck, but it’s a fact.

We have to be grownups and face that fact.

To quote Trump himself, speaking about McCain – “he lost. So I never liked him much after that, because I don't like losers."

Don’t we need a winner -- someone who can actually get elected? The principles we espouse – belief in private property, in the right to bear arms, belief in the biology of the human race (XX= female, XY = male); respect for religion; belief in American exceptionalism – these are principles that most Americans believe in. If Trump espouses those principles and can’t get to, never mind above, 50%, don’t we need to pick someone who can?

You’ll say the election was stolen and that we can’t prevent that from happening again unless the crime is unmasked and punished.

Assuming your premise, just ask yourself this: is Trump able to get the crime punished? Really? The answer, you know it, is “no.”

You’ll say it’s because the other side is corrupt and they cheat. I agree with you. We need someone who can DEFEAT them at that game. Trump has proven that he cannot do so. He is what he called McCain: a loser. He lost. He has no way to unlose, because 50% of the country hates his guts and would sooner vote for Mickey Mouse. You may think that’s ridiculous, but you do not have the legal power to make them vote for your guy instead. It just isn’t going to happen.

We’re the grownups. We have to face facts and deal with facts. Just as half the country supported slavery in 1865, so half the country supports slavery now. We have to have a leader who can LEAD those people to a better place. Ronald Reagan could do that.

We should find a leader who can actually LEAD people to that place. That means not only people like us, who already support these principles, but people who can be PERSUADED to support them.

Trump can not do that. He can’t. He doesn’t have the ability to do it.

The New Yorker, which I know all Freepers read religiously and believe every word it says, has an article up savaging DeSantis. As the National Review points out, the article can’t avoid saying he’s very smart, works very hard, is committed to conservative principles. And he wins elections. And he would win in a walk against Brandon. Shouldn’t we be smart and pick, or at least start looking for, a winner?


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To: DiogenesLamp
And questions like this is why I don't take you seriously.

Only one question? You have provided us with a whole host of reasons not to take you seriously.

261 posted on 06/23/2022 5:10:20 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
What passes as rational in your world.

It's not mine. We all share it... well, except for some who want to believe what they want to believe.

262 posted on 06/24/2022 7:50:35 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DoodleDawg
And questions like this is why I don't take you seriously.

Only one question?

You must have missed the "s" on the end of the word "question". This "s" makes the word plural.

You have provided us with a whole host of reasons not to take you seriously.

If you are the type of person who simply wants to believe something, any reason is a good reason.

263 posted on 06/24/2022 7:53:11 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Oh yes a little dig at southerners

No wonder u think like u do


264 posted on 06/24/2022 8:43:31 AM PDT by wardaddy (Where did all the sane posters go......they cannot have all died ....could they ?)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

DeSantis just barely won his gubernatorial election, thanks in part to the cheating count-o-rama against him and GOPee member Rick Scott.


265 posted on 06/24/2022 8:46:50 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Bus No. 2525)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

You have no proof what percentage Americans supported slavery or not

But we do know two things

Lincoln won with 39% of the vote the north counted which didn’t include a number of southern states candidates

Likewise many southern states didn’t have Lincoln on ballot either but I guarantee u the alternate candidates up north would’ve fared better in the north than Lincoln would have in the south

And that the equivalent of todays crazy radical libs were the abolitionists and radical republicans and abolitionist zealots who advocated and funded killing southerner men women and children for their cause from maniacs like john brown to nat turner who chopped 20-30 white southern children into pieces and piled their bodies up like some altar to his idea of social justice and is now revered as a hero by everyone from radical left to many right here even

My concern is western civ will disappear with a whimper because of appeasers in fat nation

We have to fight them like they fight us

If you think for one second they won’t attack desantis same as they do trump you are naive

They have learned it is effective since they control info dissemination

I dont agree we are a minority

Quite the contrary


266 posted on 06/24/2022 9:46:50 AM PDT by wardaddy (Where did all the sane posters go......they cannot have all died ....could they ?)
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To: Leaning Right

Now that we know that the DemonRat party is capable of cheating big time and hence, forth stealing the election.

Personally, we can not depend on D.C. doing this since they are so corrupt right now.

Our MSM needs to be responsible to these voting irregularities. The MSM is the corrupt wing to the corrupt DemonRat party.

267 posted on 06/25/2022 3:26:41 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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