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Were the elections rigged? It might not matter.
American Thinker ^ | 22 Jun, 2022 | Robert Arvay

Posted on 06/22/2022 4:27:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Well ahead of the November election, ABC News has already made suspiciously detailed predictions of the outcome.

Elections will not legitimize any government if they are rigged. We must end the absurdity whereby a private corporation can be hired to count our votes and then refuse to prove to us exactly how it got the final numbers. If the system is not completely transparent and auditable, you can never be confident in it. You can be completely justified in suspecting that it is fraudulent. When the public no longer trusts those who count the votes, then the outcome will be chaos.

The 2020 election was rigged, but it is not up to us to prove that. Instead of resisting audits every step of the way, the burden of proving otherwise falls on those who refuse to open the voting machines for inspection. There can be no innocent motive to hide them. Nor can there have been any justification for blocking observers from observing. Given all the evidence, there is more than ample reason to suspect the vote-counters of cheating. The stakes are too high for them to simply call upon their accusers to prove malfeasance, when the officials in charge of ensuring fair elections are the ones obstructing justice.

What matters even more, however, is the next election. How much assurance do we have that it will be fair? So far, not enough.

Well ahead of the November election, ABC News has already made suspiciously detailed predictions of the outcome. The news item contains the words, "'Oddly specific': ABC News deletes tweet declaring Dems will hold House in Nov, gain 4 Senate seats."

My questions are, has the election already been decided? Have we already lost? Who can count the votes ahead of time?

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KEYWORDS: communism; fraud
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To: MtnClimber

You will not prove the fraud.

Look at the results: Trump loses, Dems pickup 3 senate seats, but GOP picked up 14 seats in the House.

How does that happen?

Well, if blue areas had their ballot boxes stuffed with votes, it would affect statewide races only. Congressional races would not be affected.

So, if Democrats simply cast votes on behalf of every registered Dem voter (which is what I suspect happened) in blue precincts, you would be unable to say that vote is fraudulent because it is linked to a registered voter.

You cannot ask that voter if they voted or who they voted for. That is illegal.

But every ballot would match a registered voter. If a voter went to the polls or dropped a mail ballot, you would have two, but there is no way to track that.

Your audit would fail right there.

Vote by mail allowed votes to be cast on behalf of every registered voter, whether they voted or not.


21 posted on 06/22/2022 6:00:23 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: MtnClimber

ABC News has already made suspiciously detailed predictions of the outcome, because they know what the outcome will be.


22 posted on 06/22/2022 6:05:40 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Let's Go Brandon)
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To: MtnClimber

Ironically the tweet early may of been somond trying to warn us


23 posted on 06/22/2022 6:30:47 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat90000)
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To: mewzilla

“The letter after the name means jack anymore.

The only reason political parties still exist is to give voters the illusion of choice“

When(if) the majority of the American people ever figure out this TRUTH, we may have a chance of surviving as a nation.

I’m not holding my breath though… too many folks just can’t stop playing the “my party” game…


24 posted on 06/22/2022 6:31:58 AM PDT by joethedrummer (We can't vote our way out of this, folks..)
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To: MtnClimber

It’s more rigged then pro wrestling bot pary get in a big room and decide who wins .. they the come out and put on a big fak show to for you to talk your money


25 posted on 06/22/2022 6:35:28 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat90000)
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To: Cboldt

Obama vs. McCain

Obama vs. Romney

Communist vs. Socialist


26 posted on 06/22/2022 6:36:27 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Let's Go Brandon)
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To: MtnClimber

Selected verse Elected …. Selected is the New Normal for the last 40 plus years (imho) with only a few times not being.


27 posted on 06/22/2022 6:37:34 AM PDT by no-to-illegals ( The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them)
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To: mewzilla
The only reason political parties still exist is to give voters the illusion of choice.

Thank you, been saying this for awhile. The GOP is just as dirty as the Democrats. The GOP has done little or nothing to deal with stolen elections, so the conclusion has to be that they are as corrupt as the Dems.

28 posted on 06/22/2022 6:58:13 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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To: deport
I really believe that proprietary software in vote tabulating machines is a terrible idea. There are many projects underway to develop Open Source tabulating software. With Open Source, everybody can audit the software being used and determine exactly what and how it is counting.

It should be illegal to use proprietary vote tabulating software in elections.

open source voting software

29 posted on 06/22/2022 7:08:18 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Wanting to make America great isn’t an insult unless you’re trying to make it worse! ULTRAMAGA!!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

https://www.engadget.com/2019-09-25-microsoft-open-source-secure-voting-software-electionguard.html


30 posted on 06/22/2022 7:14:08 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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To: MtnClimber

Tomorrow I will be ninety. I smile sadly with happy memories when I think of lost parents, family, friends of my youth, canine pets, but when I think of my beloved country that now seems to be in its death throes, I can not help from grieving.


31 posted on 06/22/2022 7:59:37 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: MtnClimber

They of course will cheat again BECAUSE the stinking republicans have done NOTHING to save our republic!!


32 posted on 06/22/2022 8:03:46 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: MtnClimber

My questions are, has the election already been decided?

Not if every state votes on the same day
Paper ballots only and overseen by inspectors when counted
Limited mail in votes with proof of reason why
Photo ID required to vote with thumb print
All votes must be counted within two days.


33 posted on 06/22/2022 8:17:01 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: MtnClimber

The primary in GA holds your answer.

2020 “all over again”.


34 posted on 06/22/2022 9:22:18 AM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: Mr. K

“See how easy?”

I do, really. In addition, if the ballot is not properly filled out, then software doesn’t count but segregates into into a bin for problem ballots. Problem ballots are ALWAYS kept physically segregated from all other ballots AT ALL TIMES. All precinct decisions on problem ballots are subject to re-review at county election headquarters with representatives from all political parties on the ballot present.

The canary in the coal mine was all the delays the demonkraps had in their 2020 primary election counting. Some were weeks! But the GOP NEVER had that problem. We were told it was so they could determine whether it was Sanders or Xiden, when they really were fine tuning the Nov 3, 2020 cheating and fraud machine.

Funny how the elections were rigged in 2000, 2004 and 2016, but everything was clean in 2008, 2012 and 2020.


35 posted on 06/22/2022 10:20:58 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: MtnClimber
There will be a Red Wave this November.

The only question is whether it will be a flood of new Republicans into the halls of Congress ... or blood running through America's streets.

Because we WON'T BE fooled again.


We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

36 posted on 06/22/2022 1:23:39 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Erik Latranyi

> “You cannot ask that voter if they voted or who they voted for. That is illegal.”

Asking one on one if they voted is legal.

Online records show whether a registered voter voted.

Canvassing in-person to ask if the online record is true is legal and has been so asked extensively. The results show insofar as the Nov 2020 election that massive fraud occurred.

You are correct that statewide races are rigged, notably by boiler-rooms in urban areas


37 posted on 06/23/2022 2:38:27 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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