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I had reasoned there would be severe trucking shortages coming, which means reduced shipping of just about everything but I had not heard of this DEF scarcity. A planned scarcity, it seems - just like a lot of other shortages we've been reading about. Black Rock and Union Pacific have been much mentioned...
1 posted on 05/26/2022 10:53:28 PM PDT by citizen
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I’m reading this usage is more prevalent in Euro trucking?


2 posted on 05/26/2022 10:56:40 PM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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DEF fluid? Is that like VIN number and ATM machine?


4 posted on 05/26/2022 11:03:01 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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The engines won't start without it.

Not true. Truck ECM's can be programmed to run without it. It just isn't legal to do so.

5 posted on 05/26/2022 11:03:47 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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8 posted on 05/26/2022 11:15:53 PM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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FYI ping.


10 posted on 05/26/2022 11:22:01 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith… )
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Buy Tesla stock?

Tesla is supposed to be releasing their semi in 2023.

It will be tens of thousands of dollars more than other semis, but the fuel savings alone should pay for the difference in a very short time.


13 posted on 05/26/2022 11:35:13 PM PDT by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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I don’t see a limit imposed by Home Depot. I just put 10 in my cart and it was allowed.


14 posted on 05/26/2022 11:39:59 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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Well, first, the United States imports most of it's its Urea fertilizer.

The total solids in urine are on average 59 g per person [per day]. Urea is the largest constituent of the solids, constituting more than 50% of the total.

-Wikipedia

Regards,

18 posted on 05/27/2022 12:02:51 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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So if all new trucks since 2010 are required to use the DEF, how many older trucks can be pressed back into service to take up the slack?


19 posted on 05/27/2022 12:04:00 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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DEF = Urea....just pee in your DEF tank!! ;-)


25 posted on 05/27/2022 12:36:39 AM PDT by Drago
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Let’s go Brandon!!!

Brandon Braindead


27 posted on 05/27/2022 2:01:58 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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So, all the trucks in California which are transporting goods from the docks are about to run dry...


29 posted on 05/27/2022 2:11:18 AM PDT by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict is still Pope & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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Why don’t they use solar, or wind powered, trucks?


30 posted on 05/27/2022 2:24:10 AM PDT by fruser1
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The author is an idiot. DEF is NOT mixed with the diesel.


31 posted on 05/27/2022 2:47:23 AM PDT by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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DEF sensors trigger the crippling of the engine through the computers.

My questions are: Are these sensors tied to the sheer volume of liquid in the DEF reservoir or are they actually triggered by the chemical in the fluid?

If it is a volume sensor, and if the fluid is injected directly into the exhaust, why could you not fill the reservoir with pure water?

DEF does not mix with the diesel fuel and does not go into the engine.

The other point is the sensors’ ability to “disable” the engine can be bypassed. It may be illegal but destroying truck transport over this stupid emissions regulation seems absurd.

Will the federal government proceed to stop deliveries of food and starve Americans over a extreme emissions regulation?

Where are the thousands of DEF enforcement police needed to monitor and shut down all the truckers who would disable the sensors so they can keep driving and delivering what Americans must have to survive?

Will this foolish EPA requirement lead to the starvation of millions?


39 posted on 05/27/2022 3:31:39 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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Not sure why anyone would waste their time reading something sourced from “Facebook/Unknown.”


40 posted on 05/27/2022 3:33:12 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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Trucks can be run without DEF. In fact, DEF deletes on late model pickups are very common.

CC


41 posted on 05/27/2022 4:34:14 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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My son heard about the scarcity and dumped his diesel last January.


47 posted on 05/27/2022 5:01:28 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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So, if Tom Donilon dies in an unfortunate car accident, will the problem disappear?


54 posted on 05/27/2022 5:21:28 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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The Chairman of the BlackRock Investment Institute is Tom Donilon, President Obama’s former National Security Advisor. Tom Donilon’s brother, Mike Donilon is a Senior Advisor to Joe Biden. Tom Donilon’s wife, Catherine Russell, is the White House Personnel Director. Tom Donilon’s daughter, Sarah Donilon, who graduated college in 2019, now works on the White House National Security Council.

That explains who influenced the WH to halt shipping of all railroad grain and fertilizer products and related commodities (of which Urea would be one).


55 posted on 05/27/2022 6:09:28 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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