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1 posted on 05/17/2022 5:32:26 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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They take their cell phones into the can, with them. The encryption is probably Chinese. There will be no more WikiLeaks.


2 posted on 05/17/2022 5:37:53 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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The only people with less accountability and culpability than than federal government employees are the liberal media in this country.


3 posted on 05/17/2022 5:41:56 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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Is there some big brother blast network that gives them exactly the words and narrative to use?

Two of them actually, AP & Reuters.

4 posted on 05/17/2022 5:45:16 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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The Journo-list wasn’t just a cocktail club...................


5 posted on 05/17/2022 5:49:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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“Some of them will face criminal trials for war crimes.”

Given the circumstances of the battle, I don’t see the likelihood of a war crime having been committed by the Ukrainian defenders of the plant.


6 posted on 05/17/2022 5:58:02 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Another extreme example of the death of journalism. I have to admit, I fell for the whole evacuation BS line.


7 posted on 05/17/2022 6:02:25 AM PDT by freespirit2012
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“That journalists from so many organizations are somehow all instantly on the same page to use the same grossly misleading language?”

The US government tells the journalists. The journalists tell Americans.

Simple and easy, and hardly any work at all.

Life hasn’t been this easy for journalists since Goebbels.


8 posted on 05/17/2022 6:02:29 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Like Trump said, the media is corrupt. It’s past time to do something about it.


9 posted on 05/17/2022 6:06:25 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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That's why they are called the Enemedia. The enemedia have become the enemies of the United States.
14 posted on 05/17/2022 6:18:15 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (A proud member of the LGBFJB community)
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Even those here supporting the Neocons on Ukraine have to start to wonder WHAT OTHER LIES they’re getting from the Western media.

But I understand that they have personal reasons for wanting the war to continue.


15 posted on 05/17/2022 6:20:01 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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The media has zero credibility with only a very few exceptions. The only thing I can rely on the media is to lie. It doesn't matter what this issue is. Whether it is the Ukraine-Russian War, the Buffalo shooter, or PA GOP Senate race as current examples, the media does not do its job. At a bare minimum the media spreads lies and propaganda.

If anything the media is an anti-pattern. Whatever they say, it's probably the opposite. There are different techniques to use to avoid media trappings. Somethings like Ukraine and Russia, you can evaluate on the basis for personal and national interest. There is none, so act appropriately. The Buffalo shooter, wait for others to quote his manifesto or read it yourself. You know for experience that gun grabbers will make him to sound like a MAGA Trump supporter and call for tougher gun laws.

16 posted on 05/17/2022 6:20:16 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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Journalists coordinate misleading language to intentionally misinform readers

Really?

17 posted on 05/17/2022 6:23:38 AM PDT by gr8eman (Qui non laborat, non manducet)
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Shocking? To whom?


19 posted on 05/17/2022 6:25:44 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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I remember when Limbaugh used to do his montages, one of the funniest was when everyone was using the word Gravitas to explain what Bush the Younger didn’t have. It was a pity we were given such a schlub like George W to represent conservatism.


22 posted on 05/17/2022 6:35:54 AM PDT by Sawdring
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Journalism is dead, long live the propaganda narrative

It's been that way for quite some time now. Witch is why I no longer own a TV or read a newspaper, I get my news here and at other outlets on the net like Rebel News and Real America's Voice.

23 posted on 05/17/2022 6:37:49 AM PDT by jpsb
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It’s possible that there is a central agency that tells the news media what to say. That is a definite possibility.

Another explanation is that the committed, passionate leftists who work in the media all think alike. They don’t need to coordinate their words. Each knows what the other is thinking before he thinks it.

It’s also possible that the reality lies in a combination of the above. While they all think alike, they look to the new york times for guidance on what to say and think. It’s also likely that all the leftist media get a communication from some internal democrat operative that tells them how to handle each story as it comes out.

Bottom line, don’t expect truth from the mainstream media.


28 posted on 05/17/2022 6:50:31 AM PDT by I want the USA back (A totally corrupt media willingly lies to protect a totally corrupt administration. )
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Good post that resulted in good discussion.


29 posted on 05/17/2022 6:55:09 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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Teach your children the required steps:

1) Assume any story from a major news outlet has been slanted to make the collectivist position on the issue look correct.

2) Take note of the bare facts in the piece - disregard the opinions.

3) Go to a site with cogent commentary (FR being one of the better ones) and try to see if the story is being discussed there.

4) Compare the facts in the original piece against the facts being discussed, and evaluate any new facts that commentators are reviewing - omission of facts harmful to the advance of collectivism is one of the MSM’s primary disinformation tools.

5) Consider the opinions of the source author against the opinions of the commentators.

6) Draw your own conclusions about the event discussed.

It is not difficult to engage in this analysis - here on FR we all do it every day. But it does take a little bit of work. Make sure the people you love learn how to do this, too - and don’t just get their news by sitting on the couch sucking in whatever collectivist tripe the MSM is coordinating.

30 posted on 05/17/2022 6:58:23 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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There is “nothing new under the sun.” Except this propaganda has been notched up to the ridiculous.

Remember years ago how badly we bashed Pravda and other Russian media for outright lies and misinformation? Remember Baghdad Bob from Iraq? Yet, not a word when the so-called western media is lock-step deep into lies and misinformation — on steroids!

-First came Trump Derangement Syndrom
-Next came COVID Derangement Syndrom
-Now we have Ukraine Derangement Syndrom

Wonder what’s next when Russia finishes shellacking the Ukes and “evacuates” the Donbas and Odesa?


33 posted on 05/17/2022 7:11:56 AM PDT by icclearly
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The world is a stage


36 posted on 05/17/2022 7:28:59 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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