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After-birth abortion: why should the baby live? [Barf Alert, reminder, and warning to actual agenda]
Journal of Medical Ethics ^ | 2/23/12 | Alberto Giubilini

Posted on 05/12/2022 8:10:55 PM PDT by markomalley

Abstract

Abortion is largely accepted even for reasons that do not have anything to do with the fetus' health. By showing that (1) both fetuses and newborns do not have the same moral status as actual persons, (2) the fact that both are potential persons is morally irrelevant and (3) adoption is not always in the best interest of actual people, the authors argue that what we call ‘after-birth abortion’ (killing a newborn) should be permissible in all the cases where abortion is, including cases where the newborn is not disabled.

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I know this article has been posted a couple of times in the past.

With the recent California bill AB2223, this is getting to be closer and closer to reality.

This, people, is what they are really after ultimately...no matter what rhetoric they spew.

1 posted on 05/12/2022 8:10:55 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

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2 posted on 05/12/2022 8:13:58 PM PDT by sauropod ("We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they are elected. Don’t you?" Why? "It saves time.”)
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To: markomalley

Baal is getting hungrier for human sacrifices


3 posted on 05/12/2022 8:18:57 PM PDT by ValleyofHope (Anti-marxist ally)
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To: markomalley

All they need now is a burning hot idol to Molech.


4 posted on 05/12/2022 8:19:24 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: markomalley

Do no harm first.


5 posted on 05/12/2022 8:21:33 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: markomalley

So far only the Netherlands permits this up to 30 days, but I have been on some Yahoo groups where the comment was you just have to know the right feminist Ob GYN if you are female. If the mom wants to the procedure can be made take a good while.


6 posted on 05/12/2022 8:22:21 PM PDT by robowombat (Orth, all y,)
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To: markomalley

I cannot believe that anything called “Medical Ethics” would even publish this.

This is heinous.


7 posted on 05/12/2022 8:22:28 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: markomalley
Why not make it legal to kill them until they can do algebra?

As a bonus we can get rid of older people as well!

Just make it so if someone is laid off or retired they have to pass an algebra test or it is the gas chamber.

The unemployment rate would drop like a rock and we would not have all those useless eaters around.

8 posted on 05/12/2022 8:23:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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By showing that (1) both fetuses and newborns Jews do not have the same moral status as actual persons,

Is this next?

Seems to have been done before.
9 posted on 05/12/2022 8:23:52 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: markomalley

Maybe it’s a slippery slope. Now, they want to kill new borns. How long will it be, till they want to kill 10 year olds? Then 20 year olds? Then they might want to kill anyone, at any point in their lives.


10 posted on 05/12/2022 8:26:20 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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Baal is getting hungrier for human sacrifices

Baal never did die, did he?

11 posted on 05/12/2022 8:28:44 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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This article bringeth me of ill


12 posted on 05/12/2022 8:32:24 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor. )
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Any time you encounter someone who purports to be an expert in “bioethics,” watch your six. These people are professional culture-of-death dealers.


13 posted on 05/12/2022 8:35:13 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the s, your children and grandchildren won’t believe what is happening today. Theynarrative.)
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Any time you encounter someone who purports to be an expert in “bioethics,” watch your six. These people are professional culture-of-death dealers.


14 posted on 05/12/2022 8:35:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the s, your children and grandchildren won’t believe what is happening today. Theynarrative.)
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I cannot believe that anything called “Medical Ethics” would even publish this.

This is heinous.

How right you are. This is right out of the Nazi playbook and textbook: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/the-nazis-believed-in-medical-ethics-but-they-were-a-twisted-depraved-version-1.3111095

15 posted on 05/12/2022 8:43:03 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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How long will it be, till they want to kill 10 year olds? Then 20 year olds?

Not very long the way some ten year olds and 20 year olds act.

I notice that you didn’t mention teens. Better to be safe by not even going there.

16 posted on 05/12/2022 8:45:46 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I say we ‘abort’ the pushers of abortion.


17 posted on 05/12/2022 9:03:35 PM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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I notice that you didn’t mention teens. Better to be safe by not even going there.

They will want to DO in EVERYONE, between 0 and 99. Many of these slime bags, are probably population reduction people, so they have a vested interest in killing as many people as possible. I think they should put their money where there mouth 👄 is, and, as an example to everyone, should off themselves.

18 posted on 05/12/2022 9:09:05 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: markomalley

Bookmark


19 posted on 05/12/2022 9:12:17 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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I remember when this first came out. Oddly enough, it changed the mind of a staunchly pro-abortion liberal acquaintance of mine who used the “potential life” argument (also “sentient” argument). He said reading this left him “stunned” when he realised the same argument could be made for killing babies. It really blew him away, he said. He doted on his little nephews, so that probably had some effect, too.


20 posted on 05/12/2022 9:16:34 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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