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To: OrangeHoof

The whole country of United States of America was a wonderful place when I arrived as a graduate student in engineering in 1960. I was enrolled in University of Iowa, and in spite of the brutal winters there, I loved the place. There were no long hair, torn jeans, unshaved faces or drug addicts in university. OK so we drank beers on weekends. Later came Vietnam war and it was the beginning of the demise.


14 posted on 05/11/2022 2:36:02 PM PDT by entropy12 (The best MAGA president in my 62 years in USA as adult, Donald J Trump!)
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To: entropy12

In 1960, what you describe was the entire USA. The VN war really started the counterculture ball rolling. The black riots in the mid 60s were a disaster, too. The Pill really caused morals to decline through “recreational sex.” And the nation was still feeling rather muscular in 1960, only 15 years after the end of WW II, and Pax Americana was the rule.

Mark Steyn’s excellent book “America Alone” discusses how two World Wars so damaged Europe that people became fatalistic, ennui set in, and birth rates fell below replacement in many places. Some of the same fatalism took root in the USA, too.

I went to engineering school at the University of Missouri in Fall 1969 and we were really a secluded, rather peaceful place blissfully far removed from all the VN War riots and unrest.


35 posted on 05/11/2022 2:58:47 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Wanting to make America great isn’t an insult unless you’re trying to make it worse! ULTRAMAGA!!)
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To: entropy12

We were there at the same time mate!😀


47 posted on 05/11/2022 3:22:37 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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