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Posted on 05/09/2022 5:21:43 AM PDT by Red Badger
The country known for EVs might do away with some incentives so people will stop driving as much.
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Norway has been incredibly successful at introducing electric vehicles. In 2021, nearly two-thirds of all new vehicle purchases there were EVs, and combustion sales there are set to end just three years from now in 2025. But there's a new problem for the Scandinavian nation: it needs people to stop driving their EVs so much and get on buses and trains.
Electric vehicles, as people who don't necessarily have purely environmental interests at heart are keen to point out, don't totally negate the downsides of, well, vehicles. An electric car is still a car that takes up space on roads, has manufacturing and maintenance costs, and requires energy to move it around, which has to come from somewhere. In Norway, the grid energy is pretty darned clean (92 percent comes from hydroelectric generation, the rest from a mix of wind and thermal renewables) but any car still creates emissions, like upcoming pollutant bombshell tire particulates.
So in a statement to Norway's public roads administration, Norwegian transport minister Jon-Ivar Nygard said, “Electric cars give us greener transport, but they also have a clear intermodal competition with public transport in urban areas. We must make it more attractive to travel by public transport, cycle, and walk.”
The way Norway's thinking of doing that is by removing or at least reducing some of the incentives toward buying and driving EVs. The current, very generous provision was set to run until at least the end of 2022 but with public transport usage having dropped during the coronavirus pandemic (as it has everywhere) there's now a need to try and get people out of their Teslas, particularly in urban areas.
In efficiency terms, for C02 and emissions in general, it is always going to be better to use mass transit than individual cars, no matter how green they are. Norway's problem is that it gave such great incentives to buy EVs, going way back, that now people are choosing to drive their cars, powered from the cheap electricity off Norway's clean grid, rather than get on a bus or train.
Norway has a lot of toll roads. If you ever drive there then you have to register your car and add a bank card; then it works out the total and charges you. If you drive a small diesel van, like I did when I went there for a World Rally Championship round in 2018, then you find the charges rack up pretty quickly. But if you're in an electric vehicle then the road tolls are substantially reduced. This may not be the case if the government decides to push public transit over personal transportation.
Now, it's not as if Norway wants everybody to sell the EVs they so kindly bought in place of gas cars. It's just that driving yourself when other options are available isn't the best way to cut down on emissions. That seems to be Norway's main goal—not boasting about battery-powered car sales—so time will tell what the country decides to do with its existing
Yeah a lot of that going in here also.
What’s frightening to me is so many people are to willing to give up their rights.
Control, control, control...
It comes from the vehicle charger! Where did you think the energy comes from? (/sarc)
Geez. Almost like part of a plan or sumfin’.
That’s a link to an article-long advertisement for a proprietary “body detoxification” formula.
What a racket.
“they pulled the cover back a bit there for a glimpse of the next envirowacko target.”
One of many, no doubt. I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s, and therefore have seen us go from dealing with basic questions of sanitation to environmental “microaggressions” like tire dust. The environmental movement is never satisfied. Nothing is ever enough. Each measure we take is merely a stepping stone to the next. What is the real endgame here? I shudder to think about it.
“Risk aversion is a thing, and many people are pathologically risk averse.”
You say “pathologically risk averse”.
Might you not have simply said: “effeminate”?
“What is the real endgame here?”
My sister and I discuss that all the time. It seems unanswerable. They lurch from one cause to the next, no matter how extreme, to see what might catch on. I don’t think any of them really think about an endgame or where we could be headed. They just live for the excitement of “activism” and need a cause, any cause, to feel fulfilled.
Typical of Socialism or Communism: The elites eat high on the hog and the plebes eat out of their garbage cans. The elites ride around in their limos and the plebes ride around in crowded buses.
The endgame is very straightforward.
Humans cause pollution and harm the planet.
Therefore any true hard core environmentalist favors the “final solution”—at least for folks they don’t like.
Sounds a lot like France 1788...............
As I have posted more than once on this site, governments are deceiving people into buying electric vehicles to get them out of vehicles using gasoline and diesel. When that goal is accomplished, they will announce electric vehicles are not a practical alternative in massive numbers. Then, they will outlaw those too.
This is about CONTROL of people and limiting their mobility.
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Liberals want you to live like The Fllintstones, while they live like The Jetsons
Now EV’s are not good enough.
NOTHING will satisfy the left until we are freezing and starving to death stuck in our unheated hovels.
Wait...I thought EVs ran on Unicorn farts!
They are running out of Unicorn Farts....................
Total cost is proportional to total energy consumption and CO2 output. If government transport is more energy efficient than personal transport, then it will be cheaper. The reality is, few would ride government transport unless the price was heavily subsidized, often to the tune of 90% of the total cost.
Computerized cars can link up into virtual trains to match train economies of scale.
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