[GonzoII]

RELATED FROM: FREEPER SpeedyInTexas The first image of the guided missile cruiser Moskva of the Russian Navy that sank a few days ago, via @Bormanike

[Jewbacca]

I thought this was all fake, according to the local Putinistas.

[Williams]

It’s certain the ship sunk during the war. I find constant stories about the “debate” over the cause to be somewhat - boring.

[Grey182]

Why do I get the impression we were involved in this sinking?

[TexasFreeper2009]

the initial impact may have killed some people, but no way the sinking did. There wasn’t a single man in the water as it sunk being towed. Surely they had all been removed from the ship way before it started being towed.

[logi_cal869]

CINO porn. /s

[jerod]

If you say 'image' or 'picture' in a post... Why not just post the image or pic?

[jerod]

Pooptin in 2014 slumming with Egyptian president Abdel Fattah el-Sisi in happier days aboard the boat he lost...

[Hiddigeigei]

Putinistas? Putin is a dictator. Russia has never known any thing else. Ukraine is a kleptocracy. The dispute between Russia and the Ukraine has been going on for some time, primarily over language rights of Russian speaking regions of Ukraine and Ukrainian alliance with NATO. As far as I am concerned, a pox on both their houses. We have been repeated lied to by our government and media about everything else, why should I believe what I’m told about the Ukraine situation. Does that make me a “Pudinista?”

[pfflier]

There are a lot of lessons to be learned so far in this conflict. Tanks and ships have vulnerabilities to smarter weapons and tactics

Since the Stark and the Falklands, it has been demonstrated that sea skimmers have a high PK and ship board defensive systems are questionable in their effectiveness. Granted, in the case of Stark, CWIS was down but it is just topside weight unless it is available and effective.

I sincerely hope that our side is evaluating countermeasures because you can damn sure bet the chicoms are looking and the results.