Is Windows 11 Less Popular Than Windows XP?

Slashdot ^ | Apr 17, 2022 | EditorDavid

[dayglored]

[Dayglored note: This thread is not trolling, though the headline might seem that way. It's about a survey of BUSINESS NETWORKS by LanSweeper (https://www.lansweeper.com). The takeup of Win11 in businesses is glacially slow, while home users are starting to use it much more, or are forced to use it.]

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The Slashdot page posted here links to a story on PC Magazine. Sadly, FreeRepublic is not permitted to post PC Magazine content, so none appears here.

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The LanSweeper survey found the following:

Number of Windows devices scanned: 10,000,000
Date of scanning: "this month"
Devices w/ Win10 installed: 80.34%
Devices w/ WinXP installed: 1.71%
Devices w/ Win11 installed: 1.44%

Here is the SlashDot article

[bert]

First Hand Testimony:

Windows was provided automatically I suppose as a result of Office 365 and loaded painlessly when accepted. It did take awhile but it was no problem. And...... for the first time ever, my 79 year old wife acquired and loaded Windows 11 with out coming to me for help. Now that is a milestone worth recording.

In actual operation, Windows 11 is different in presentation but very much like Windows 10.

Windows 11 makes the interactive Microsoft mega world work extremely well. The world runs on Microsoft

[minnesota_bound]

Windows 7 still used by about 18% of pc users including me.

View Operating System Version Market Share
https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide

Windows 7 is still running on at least 100 million PCs
It could be even more than 100 million
In reality, it could still be in use by more than 200 million devices worldwide.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/6/22217052/microsoft-windows-7-109-million-pcs-usage-stats-analytics

[Clay Moore]

“LOL! Almost NONE are sticking with XP!”

Unless they changed it recently, Walmart POS are still running XP.

[Mr. Blond]

Forced to upgrade to Win11 on this new laptop, as Win7 won’t install on these new M2 hard drives. It’s able to be modded closer to 7 than Win10 was. But the taskbar is aggravating.

[C210N]

Thanks for that suggestion! Makes a great deal of sense to switch to SSD.

Just digging a little bit, and I see even if my SATA controller is not so new, SDD still has a huge advantage.

[max americana]

I still have my Win XP laptop with DEll and STILL OPERATIONAL.

I’ve been tempted thru the years just to upgrade but wont..

[mjp]

I have a newer model running 11 and an older model running 10. The 11 model is much faster than the 10 model

[Auntie Mame]

But they do. With XP can’t access my bank, can’t access my web-based email (GoDaddy). Browsers tried: Firefox, Brave, Chrome, and another one, can’t think of the name right now. No go. It’s what made me upgrade at the office to Win 10, which isn’t bad, I am surprised to say. Don’t like coming in in the morning and finding out it apparently did an update and everything’s messed up, but so far I’ve managed to straightening things out fairly easily.

Does anyone find it odd that we allow a complete “stranger” so to speak, to come into our computers at will and change things? I think this is wrong and dangerous.

[minnesota_bound]

#7 You can try Windows 11 by installing it in the free Oracle VirtualBox.
https://www.virtualbox.org

How to Use VirtualBox | Beginners Guide to VirtualBox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZJ6KZUc25M

I use VirtualBox for software that will only run on Windows 10/11 and I also can install Linux Mint as an example. I use Windows 7.

How to install Microsoft Windows 11 on VirtualBox!
https://blogs.oracle.com/virtualization/post/install-microsoft-windows-11-on-virtualbox

You can do this in Windows 7, 10 prior if you want to upgrade.
Otherwise you can follow the directions below for a clean install.

Get Windows 11
https://tweaks.com/windows/67321/download-windows-11-now/

How to Install Windows 11 on just about any Device
https://tweaks.com/windows/67324/how-to-install-windows-11-on-just-about-any-device/
Using the tricks I’m about to share with you I was able to install Windows 11 on my $79 8” NuVision Windows Tablet I purchased from the Microsoft store in 2017. Originally shipping with Windows 8, this tiny tablet is packed with 2GB of RAM, 32GB hard drive, no TPM, no secure boot, and a 1.4 Ghz Atom processor that is no where to be found on the CPU requirements list.

Needs 64-bit processor.

Plug in your USB installation media and boot up the installer on your PC. When you get to the main Windows Setup screen shown below, stop

Next, hold down the Shift and F10 keys to open up a secret Command Prompt window. On this screen type in regedit and hit Enter to open up Registry Editor.

In Registry Editor, navigate through HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, SYSTEM, and then Setup. Right click on Setup and select New and then Key.

Name the new key LabConfig and then hit Enter.

Next, under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, SYSTEM, Setup and then the new LabConfig key we just created, we need to create three new DWORD (32-bit) values. Right click on the background and select New and then DWORD (32-bit) Value and create a DWORD named after each item below:

BypassTPMCheck
BypassRAMCheck
BypassSecureBootCheck

And now for the final step, set the value for each DWORD you just created to 1 by either double click on each item or right clicking on each and selecting modify.

Simply close Registry Editor and Command Prompt and begin your install by clicking Next back on the Windows Setup screen.

[dayglored]

>> “Just that Win11 is even smaller”

> Source article cites two surveys that say otherwise

No, they say something about a different thing.

The other two surveys were polling the home/internet environment, not the business LAN environment. Totally apples and oranges, and the PC Magazine article did its readers a disservice by conflating the two. Probably they didn't want to piss off their Redmond overseers, but who knows.

The LanSweeper survey indicated OVER 9% WINDOWS SERVER usage. Now, really, how many home users pay for and install Windows Server? One in ten thousand, maybe, if that? It's completely obvious that the LanSweeper is about BUSINESS NETWORKS as I indicated in my initial comment when posting.

The other two surveys don't disagree with LanSweeper -- they're about something else entirely.

C'mon, man. :-) Happy Easter.

[minnesota_bound]

#38 Fix: Windows 10 Stuck in Tablet Mode
https://appuals.com/fix-windows-10-stuck-in-tablet-mode/
Several possible ways to fix.

What it should do.... but does not all the time.
Turn tablet mode on or off - Windows 10
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/turn-tablet-mode-on-or-off-add3fbce-5cb5-bf76-0f9c-8d7b30041f30
Tablet mode makes Windows 10 more touch-friendly when using your device as a tablet. Select action center on the taskbar (next to the date and time), and then select Tablet mode to turn it on or off.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

I “upgraded” to windows 11, figuring it was inevitable, and now Photos doesn’t work, and I cannot find a workaround. There is still a “Photos” App but it sux. I am glad I didn’t install it on my wife’s desktop, or it might mean divorce. Sorry I installed it, and would like to go back. Windows 11 is definitely inferior to 10. I liked windows 7, and did not think 10 was much of an upgrade. (Obviously 8, and 9 really sux.)

And yeah, I was dragged kicking and screaming from XP, which was fine.

[dayglored]

> I have a newer model running 11 and an older model running 10. The 11 model is much faster than the 10 model

On identical hardware, I find that 11 runs applications at about the same speed at 10; slightly faster or slightly slower depending on the application. And actually that's pretty good, given that 11 has substantially improved security under the hood compared to 10.

Rant alert...

OTOH, navigating the UI dialogs is about 3x slower in both 10 and 11 compared to Win7. I can't stand to work with the 10/11 UI. The "Metro" UI introduced in Win8 was the worst mistake since Vista and its "Mother-May-I" UAC and pig-slow Aero graphics.

I pray for the day Microsoft comes to their senses and takes the desktop back to the Win7 or earlier UI, or at least offers it as an option. There was a time when you could select that, but they dropped the option with Win8 because You Will Use The UI We Give You. Fascists, bah. Bad as Apple, maybe worse, since Apple's UI at least works really well and they don't screw with it every release.

Sorry about the rant. :-)

[doorgunner69]

Switching to SSD om y older Dell desktop took a lot of jiggery pokery. Cloning methonds would not boot, etc.

Once it worked, the speed of boot in particular is awesome.
That alone was worth the nominal cost of the SSD.

[TexasGator]

“No, they say something about a different thing.

The other two surveys were polling the home/internet environment, not the business LAN environment.”

LOL! Lansweeper polled 80% consumer PC’s!

[TexasGator]

“Unless they changed it recently, Walmart POS are still running XP.”

ROTFLMAO!

[glimmerman70]

I will look at ALL of this.. Thank you. I bought a brand new last years lap top. Got a descent deal and was happy until all this started happening. Back when XP was the thing I used to build my own rigs. But really was all plug and play. You really never had these type of problems just doing updates.. Lol..

[glimmerman70]

But mine was not stuck in tablet mode. Mine was that I lost the start menu button in the bottom left. But I still want to THANK YOU for the response.

[minnesota_bound]

This was the fix at work for the Start Menu either gone or not responding.

Start menu missing from Windows 10 - see first response.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/start-menu-missing-from-windows-10/e219edf3-041c-4252-928e-23f23f86ee6b?auth=1

Screenshot - You can copy the code without the quotes and paste in the msdos / powershell window by clicking on the icon in the upper left corner.

Method 7: Using Powershell
https://www.softwaretestinghelp.com/windows-10-start-menu-not-working/

Video of the step. Starts at the 2:50 mark.
https://youtu.be/V3zpt3tOQvA?t=170

[upchuck]

Still truckin’ with Win 7 Pro X64. Prolly will till the day I die.

Anybody know of an ink-jet printer that has drivers for Win 7? Trying to think ahead.