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Post-COVID Vax Myocarditis Similar to Other Vaccines
Medpage Today ^ | April 11, 2022 | Molly Walker

Posted on 04/12/2022 2:56:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway

— 75-year literature review finds incidence no different than following non-COVID vaccines

Not only were rates of myopericarditis following COVID vaccination extremely low, but they were comparable to non-COVID vaccines, a systematic review and meta-analysis found.

In an analysis of 11 studies with over 400 million vaccine doses, there was no significant difference in incidence of myopericarditis after COVID vaccines versus non-COVID vaccines (18.2 vs 56.0 cases per million doses, P=0.20), reported Kollengode Ramanathan, MD, of National University Hospital in Singapore, and colleagues.

And compared with COVID vaccinations, there was no significant difference in incidence of myopericarditis after influenza vaccinations (1.3 per million doses, P=0.43), they wrote in Lancet Respiratory Medicine.

"The occurrence of myopericarditis following non-COVID-19 vaccination could suggest that myopericarditis is a side effect of the inflammatory processes induced by any vaccination and is not unique to the SARS-CoV-2 spike proteins in COVID-19 vaccines or infection," said co-author Jyoti Somani, MD, also of National University Hospital, in a statement.

Indeed, Ramanathan's group noted that prior to COVID vaccines, the only vaccines with links to increased risk of myopericarditis were smallpox vaccines.

"Whether these findings reflect a true increase in incidence or merely improved reporting and recall bias remains inconclusive," they wrote.

They searched for studies from Jan. 1, 1947 to Dec. 31, 2021 with a primary outcome of incidence of myopericarditis in temporal relation to vaccination.

Overall, incidence of myopericarditis following vaccination in 22 studies was 33 cases per million doses (95% CI 15.3-72.6).

Myopericarditis was significantly higher following smallpox vaccination (132.1 cases per million) compared to COVID vaccination (P<0.001).

Among COVID vaccines, incidence of myopericarditis did not differ significantly between the adult and pediatric subgroups (26.0 vs 18.4 cases per million, P=0.58).

As other studies have confirmed, incidence of myopericarditis was significantly higher among those who received mRNA vaccines (22.6 cases per million doses), higher in people younger than age 30 (40.9 per million), and higher in males than females (23 vs 5.1 per million). The authors highlighted that "These findings are important additions to the conversation when weighing the risks and benefits of COVID-19 vaccination during this pandemic."

Ramanathan's group also found that pooled all-cause mortality was non-significant when comparing COVID vaccines (8.4 per million) and non-COVID vaccines (7.2 per million, P=0.93).

In an accompanying editorial, Margaret Ryan, MD, and Jay Montgomery, MD, both of the Defense Health Agency in Falls Church, Virginia, characterized myopericarditis following vaccination as "unexpected, but not unprecedented."

They stated that there were "common demographic and clinical features" between myopericarditis cases associated with smallpox and mRNA COVID vaccines. Indeed, Ryan and Montgomery pointed out that U.S. military professionals ("a large number of young men," they noted), who were familiar with adverse events (AEs) following smallpox vaccination, "were among the first to observe myocarditis cases after mRNA COVID-19 vaccines," given that they likely received a two-dose vaccine series in early 2021.

The editorialists also discussed the paucity of information on myocarditis following immunizations other than smallpox or COVID, finding only five publications in a literature review spanning 75 years.

"Among the populations who received billions of vaccine doses after which myopericarditis was not observed or very rarely observed, published literature might not exist; reassuring data from background populations would not be captured in analyses of the literature," they wrote, adding that it is important to fully investigate these AEs, given their link to vaccine confidence.

"Alternative vaccine platforms, vaccine doses, or vaccine schedules could reduce the risk of rare adverse events and must be explored in the context of changing infection risk," Ryan and Montgomery added.

Study limitations included that the findings are not generalizable to children ages 12 years and younger who received the COVID vaccine, and that the vaccines were compared across different time periods, which could lead to potential confounders. Lastly, vaccines against hepatitis, Haemophilus influenzae, pneumococcus and diphtheria, pertussis and tetanus were underrepresented in the literature review.


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To: Boogieman
It doesn’t specifically say that is how they got their rate for COVID vaccinations though.

True, but that’s the beauty of legitimately published scientific research. If they reported on a number and don’t source the data for others to reproduce they’ll get roasted and lose all credibility for future endeavors.

Turns out this is a bigger problem for researchers than for Substack authors.

21 posted on 04/12/2022 3:40:19 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
Serious?

Anyone serious could do a quick search for "died suddenly", "increased mycarditis", and "ECG screening student athletes", etc.

22 posted on 04/12/2022 3:41:10 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: ransomnote
Heart issues are through the roof with COvid ‘vaccines’…

Cite to a source saying heart issues are up in the population at large (which of course includes the Covid vaccinated)?

I haven’t seen any.

23 posted on 04/12/2022 3:43:18 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“..on both sides...”

__________

No sale.

You may not be a gaslighter, but did you know you are playing one on FR?


24 posted on 04/12/2022 3:54:21 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: nickcarraway

Breaking the skin barrier and inserting substances into the body can cause harm.

Even someone thousands of years ago greece might have been able to tell you that.


25 posted on 04/12/2022 4:00:06 PM PDT by algore
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To: nickcarraway

Pure Bull S#it


26 posted on 04/12/2022 4:00:55 PM PDT by toomanylaws (Solution? Revolution!)
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To: nickcarraway
In the CDC's vaccine database's 32 year history, Covid 'vaccines' account for over 77% of all reported cases of myocarditis post 'vaccination'. Through 2020, no year's worth of vaccines resulted in more than .26 of one percentage point of the overall total of post vaccination reports made to the Database. The numbers are worse for pericarditis, with Covid 'vaccines' receiving 83% of all reports of pericarditis post vax in 32 years of record keeping. The CDC hasn't even kept up with updating it's records, so there's actually more than reflected.


27 posted on 04/12/2022 4:07:26 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: semimojo
You don't understand the purpose of VAERS or else there's some other reason you mindlessly repeat the same error. VAERS has functioned as a safety signal prior to Covid gene therapy shots. The practice was to watch VAERS, establish a threshold upon which a vaccine would be paused or withdrawn based on the number of reports received. For example, 50 reports of death post vax resulted in product withdrawal for further study in previous years.

Now that Covid 'vaccines' have sent the numbers for death, heart issues, paralysis, blood clots etc. off the charts (hundreds or thousands of times higher than all other vaccines), the CDC has created a fake safety threshold just for Covid 'vaccines' which cannot be crossed mathematically, this way no matter how many people die or are disabled by the Covid gene therapy shots, the CDC will still claim they are safe because the case counts didn't surpass the mathematically impossible safety threshold.

The safety signal is VAERS, by design, not your query about general population.

28 posted on 04/12/2022 4:20:34 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: mewzilla

For childrens school sports as well


29 posted on 04/12/2022 5:07:45 PM PDT by dkGba
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To: freespirit2012

And I have a bridge for sale.

Do other vaccines give little girls genital ulcers?


30 posted on 04/12/2022 5:10:47 PM PDT by bgill (Which came first, the vax or the virus?)
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To: nickcarraway

I wish people on would stop defending vax when real life BS is taking place in real time right before their eyes. It’s irritating. Spoke with a woman today- vaxxed and boosted- went on 4 day cruise with 3 friends ( so all guests vaccinated and boosters recommended; crew all vaccinated AND boosters, and all must test negative before boarding)- all came down with symptoms the week after the cruise and tested + for Covid. She was quite symptomatic and miserable for over 2 weeks. She said she can’t wait to get her fourth shot/2nd booster. I don’t get it. Rinse and repeat.


31 posted on 04/12/2022 5:16:59 PM PDT by dkGba
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To: ransomnote
You don't understand the purpose of VAERS…

Simple question.

1) Can you provide any evidence that the vaccinated have a higher rate of problems than the unvaccinated?

And we all know VAERS can’t answer that question.

If the vaccinated don’t have more problems what are you worried about?

32 posted on 04/12/2022 5:20:50 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: ransomnote
For example, 50 reports of death post vax resulted in product withdrawal for further study in previous years.

So you contend it didn’t matter what vaccine, the demographics of the vaccinated population, how many doses were given, what the cause of death was (accident, suicide, pre-existing condition), over what period of time the deaths occurred, or anything else, if there were 50 self-reported deaths sometime following the vaccination they would withdraw the vaccine.

That’s laughable.

Who designed that standard, an anti-vaxer?

33 posted on 04/12/2022 5:27:15 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

You sure write like a paid troll. Science doesn’t matter to you. Comparing Covid ‘vaccines’ to all other vaccines doesn’t matter to you. Just talking points you parrot. I couldn’t do what you do for any inducement; but here you are working it....


34 posted on 04/12/2022 5:27:21 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
Comparing Covid ‘vaccines’ to all other vaccines doesn’t matter to you.

Just so the few FReepers still paying attention are clear, in all the nonsense you've inflicted on this website you've not posted any evidence that the vaccinated have more adverse events than the unvaccinated.

This makes perfect sense since almost everything you post is based on adverse event data, and that data says nothing about the unvaccinated. For all we know the unvaccinated are having triple the rate of adverse events.

On the other hand, there's overwhelming evidence the vaccines have prevented much severe disease and prevented hundreds of thousands of deaths. And it's evidence based on data, not anecdote.

35 posted on 04/12/2022 5:48:20 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
 

 

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Post-COVID Vax Myocarditis Similar to Other Vaccinessemimojo wrote:
Comparing Covid ‘vaccines’ to all other vaccines doesn’t matter to you.

Just so the few FReepers still paying attention are clear, in all the nonsense you've inflicted on this website you've not posted any evidence that the vaccinated have more adverse events than the unvaccinated.

This makes perfect sense since almost everything you post is based on adverse event data, and that data says nothing about the unvaccinated. For all we know the unvaccinated are having triple the rate of adverse events.

On the other hand, there's overwhelming evidence the vaccines have prevented much severe disease and prevented hundreds of thousands of deaths. And it's evidence based on data, not anecdote.

False, shill. I've posted articles comparing background adverse events to VAERS adverse events. You're shilling for devastating Covid vaccines and will do so no matter how many times I provide evidence they are killing and maiming people. You just aren't worth it.

36 posted on 04/12/2022 6:00:10 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: nickcarraway

Is it the same in older teen young adult healthy males which is the concern about COVID vaccine?


37 posted on 04/12/2022 6:08:17 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: one guy in new jersey

No sale.

You may not be a gaslighter, but did you know you are playing one on FR?”

Go back to Jersey kid. Your opinion isn’t wanted.


38 posted on 04/12/2022 6:21:12 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (remorse)
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To: ransomnote
I've posted articles comparing background adverse events to VAERS adverse events.

Background levels in the unvaccinated population and not just previous adverse events in the vaccinated?

I don't believe you. Prove me wrong and link to one now.

39 posted on 04/12/2022 6:22:46 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Don’t give me orders.

People that matter (not shills like you) have seen what I’ve posted. I don’t run errands for you. I don’t take homewor assignments from you. You’re here to lure FReepers into harm’s way. You’re not worth my time.

You go on lying to them. I go on finding articles where doctors say unprecedented numbers of neurological problems, heart problems, strokes, clots never seen before, and today, genital sores on children as a result of the vax. Readers can think for themselves and few are likely to be persuaded by shills like you.


40 posted on 04/12/2022 6:27:33 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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