Posted on 03/30/2022 4:51:41 AM PDT by MtnClimber
The West did it before. Let's make sure we don't make the same mistake again.
Article 231 may rightly deserve the notorious distinction as being the 20th century's single greatest miscalculation. Any miscalculation in the application and enforcement of the severe economic sanctions levied against Russia in response to its recent invasion of Ukraine may turn out to be the 21st century's single greatest.
Article 231, also known as the War Guilt Clause, was part of the Treaty of Versailles, negotiated as conditions of peace for ending World War I. The resolution "placed all blame for inciting the war squarely on Germany, and forced it to pay several billion in reparations to the Allied nations."
This miscalculation is found in the intent of the War Guilt Clause, which was to take all the bite out of the German Pinscher's mouth, by crippling, for generations to come, the German economy to subsistence, subservient levels, so it should never again be able make war on its neighbors . However, it would be its severe enforcement that, as historians assert, led to the broad support among Germans for political and cultural promises contained in the evil and maniacal barking of Adolf Hitler.
In other words, it was, at least in part, "[d]ue to lasting resentment of the Versailles Treaty [that] the National Socialist (Nazi) Party ... w[as] able to gain support in the 1920s and early '30s by promising to overturn [the Versailles Treaty's] harsh provisions and make Germany into a major European power once again." That regained power would soon assert itself by provoking a second world war and committing the horrific atrocities of the holocaust.
The NATO and U.N. countries' severe response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which admittedly has been swift and mostly unified (
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Never fear, Joe Biden is here....the adult in the room (senile citizen).
Short answer: This isn't Versailles. This is the Occupation of Rheinland of 1936, the Occupation of the "Protectorate of Böhmen and Mähren," and the Invasion of Poland all wrapped up into one.
Putin is Hitler - albeit with nukes - and appeasement will fail.
Taking war reparations off the table at this point in time would be ludicrous!
Regards,
Forgot to mention my preferred solution: A bullet to the back of the head of Putin. Elegant and cheap!
Regards,
Note to self: review.
War Guilt Clause is the same with White Guilt Clause. I’m personally hoping it ends badly by revocation of hiring preferences and education set asides. Let’s get back to educating people to standards that make them the best workers or self-supporting. Today, the DNC teaches children to join Satan’s fraternity and think they are leaders, when they are just stupid the whole time.
At present, there are no new blueprints or blueprint makers.
Good thing there’s no Archdukes in Ukraine.
But I fear Joe might consider getting us into a war to take heat off his record as an absolute failure as President.
It’s not just senile Joe, who doesn’t know what’s going on anyway.
The Leftists who own him want the American military reduced to Third World status. A big war involving sunken aircraft carriers and personnel and smart weapons used up would please them immensely.
If the Russians remove Putin and remove their forces from Ukraine, Georgia, and Japan I imagine the Western reaction will be both charitable and generous.
As Devil’s advocate, why should Russia give up the island to Japan?
America still occupies Europe and Japan. Israel occupies the Golan and West Bank.
Why? Because there has to be a price paid for a restoration of friendly relations.
Requiring Russia to give up things that don’t belong to them has to be part of the package.
The blueprint to get another world war going/
Elect Biden and Harris world leaders see option arrive gives much thanks.
The real question that must be asked:
Why are so many freepers so desperate to grant Germans excuses for World Wars One and Two?
The historical memory demonstrated by many respondents seems highly selective; hampering any realistic analysis. Some facts to consider:
- The war began against the backdrop of the meteoric rise of Imperial Germany, and its accumulation of serious power on the international stage. Most Continental nations were frightened, but little of this troubled Allied trade interests. But the British became quite frightened of German insistence on building a fleet of surface warships, the purpose of which was seen as a challenge to the worldwide maritime dominance exercised by the British Royal Navy.
- Prior to 1919, extracting reparations from losers was the rule rather than the exception. The notion that generosity to losers was to be preferred, as both morally superior and more effective in reducing chances of future conflict was a mere fantasy constructed by the early Progressives. It is still devoid of merit.
- Germany was the last adversary left standing by November 1918. The other Central Powers had collapsed, disintegrated, or switched sides (Austrian Empire, Ottoman Empire, Italy). There was no one else left to blame.
- Great Britain was uninterested in war and hoped to avoid involvement, but German refusal to honor the three-way treaty (signed by Britain, France, and Germany) guaranteeing Belgian sovereignty & neutrality pushed them over the edge.
- British land forces played no role in German war planning and their potential impact was deliberately ignored by German planners.
- In 1914, Franco/German relations were at their lowest ebb of hostility since the 1870s. German planning, however, still demanded an attack on France first, and the Germans followed that line of thinking with exceptional lack of imagination. But they refused to allocate sufficient forces to do the job.
- German leadership repeatedly discounted the adverse impact of nautical/maritime operations. The snarling of international oceangoing trade hit them much harder than they anticipated. After several attempts by their High Seas Fleet to break out of the North Sea, they felt driven toward submarine warfare, and did come within weeks of forcing Britain out of the conflict in 1917. Better anti-submarine countermeasures and the involvement of American naval forces just barely rescued the Allied cause.
- The United States entered the conflict over dissatisfaction with repeated German sinkings of British-flagged vessels in which American lives were lost; many vessels were sunk immediately after German diplomats promised it would noever happen again. Whether American insistence on such a sweeping view of the rights of “neutrals” was realistic is a separate issue.
- There was no “stab in the back” of German forces by socialists & communists. Germany was failing militarily and by early summer 1918 their army leadership knew it, admitting as much within governmental circles.
That’s easy. How many times in her history had France attacked her eastern neighbor since 876?
Twenty-two times until 1870, not counting 1914 and 1939...
“That’s easy. How many times in her history had France attacked her eastern neighbor since 876?
Twenty-two times until 1870, not counting 1914 and 1939.” [Menes, post 16]
Categorically erroneous on so many levels. Helps explain why you sound like a revisionist, praising the Hatfields & McCoys. Those clans eventually made up (by a formally signed “peace treaty” circa 1993).
France did not “attack” Germany in either 1914 nor 1939. They did respond pre-emptively - a few hours or minutes before the German onslaught. It wasn’t a case of unprovoked attack.
Complaining about France attacking “Germany” in the centuries before 1870 carries no weight. There was no German state to be attacked before 1871. For the historically uninformed, that was when the Prussians dragooned what statelets & minor principalities still existed into Imperial Germany - a process they’d worked at for decades.
What are u a Putinsta dog?
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I know. “Putinista”. I am not for Russia, and I hope Ukraine kicks Russia Butt. I just think the globalists were pulling Biden puppet strings, first to push Putin over what he already said was his red line (and Biden stating what he will not do to give Putin a green light); second to draw us into the war after it started to create WWIII which the “Great Reset” crowd wants to happen. Now that war has started, I hope Ukraine can beat the Russian troops back. We should assist, but not up to the point we are drawn in.
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