Independent journalist says US should stop sending weapons to Ukraine ASAP. 'Neo-fascists' committing war crimes

twitter ^ | March 27 | Jordan Schachtel

[RandFan]

@JordanSchachtel

US govt should stop weapons deliveries to Ukraine ASAP. Taxpayer dollars are being used to commit atrocities against innocents. There are zero guardrails between the Ukrainian military and the neo fascists that are committing war crimes within its ranks. Hard stop needed, ASAP.

[Navy Patriot]

Oh Dear, now you REALLY sound like me. (NOT Sarcasm)

[Sans-Culotte]

Ri-ight. Russia has the right to "punish" Ukraine because... America and NATO "broke their word."

They did not have the right to invade. But they were provoked.

[Who is John Galt?]

It’s absolutely in our interest to stop Russian mass murder and destruction of borders.

Ok, that's one more vote for the US as "Globo Robo Cop". Wikipedia lists 30 or 40 wars currently ongoing - do we intervene in those also, "to stop... mass murder and destruction of borders"? Or only if a boogeyman is involved?

Nothing happens in a vacuum.

Not sure if that is better described as a "cliche" or "platitude", so let's just call it 'hand waving'...

Our enemies are watching and waiting.

Does that include China? The Chicoms would LOVE to see the US and Russia fight it out! And I'm sure that, if the US gets involved in some out-of-the-way place (like Ukraine) where we have no vital interests, the Chinese will be 'Super-Duper-Impressed' - like after Vietnam & Afghanistan!

History proves that the price for weakness is always paid in blood.

So let's jump into every third world border dispute, and show them who's boss - otherwise we're weak. Sure thing...

It will be American blood in this case.

And we get a powerful finale, with the famous "Crystal Ball" argument! 'If we get involved Americans will probably get killed, AND we risk starting World War Three right away, BUT my 'Crystal Ball ' tells me we have to STOP PUTIN NOW!!!'

Oh, you betcha - otherwise Putin's "clown car" army will be in London by Memorial Day, just so Pooty can rape the Queen and piss on Churchill's grave...

;>)

[Navy Patriot]

Obama's White House then stole Ukraine's Gold. Just like they did with Libya.

I do have a minor comment about that:

The reason Qaddafi collected and held Gold in Libya, for Libya, was for Independence from IMF and the attached US Dollar, to avoid Debt Slavery for Libyans, and the hopes of becoming the Banker for Middle East/North African Muslim Nations.

[sport]

That is not happening. All the attention that is being directed to what is happening over there is to keep the attention focused on what is going on there. And off what is happening at home [in the United States of America]. To wit} The systemic dismantling of America, Runaway inflation, high prices of everything, the illegals being smuggled into the U.S. hourly all of them fighting age males plus the criminals, illegal narcotics from Red China to name a few. And the ploy is working.

[Navy Patriot]

We don’t have UN permission for the war in Syria. We didn’t get it for the 2 month bombing of Kosovo.

Well, Some Animals Are More Equal Than Other Animals.

[Lurker]

You’re very perceptive.

L

[marktwain]

If America and NATO had not broken their word given in 1991 to not move NATO one inch eastward, in return for German reunification and Soviet withdrawal from Eastern Europe, but instead, pushed NATO right to the border of Russia, this would not have happened.

As far as I can tell, this "promise" is a fiction created by the Russians.

There never was anything on paper. The best I can find is some Russians thought they had an agreement in words...

I would love to see this agreement. I have not been able to find it.

I have heard of a later agreement, by Russians, on paper, that NATO could expand indefinitely. I have not seen that agreement either.

If you have a link to an agreement where America and NATO agreed not to expand, I would love to see it.

All I find is Russians saying this is what they believed.

[agere_contra]

Well said.

Ghadaffi's vision for a gold-backed dinar is probably what led to NATO's chevauchée.

Not just to secure all that lovely gold into western hands, but also to prevent any possible gold/oil bourse.

[Navy Patriot]

Agree.

Notice my Libya post contained no judgement, either way, about Qaddafi, Libya, or Muslims.

Just the Facts, Ma'am, Just the Facts.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

Why do the Ukrainians have little animosity for Nazis?

“The Holodomor, also known as the Terror-Famine or the Great Famine, was a Stalinist famine in Soviet Ukraine from 1932 to 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians.”

The Ukrainians truly hated the communists and the Russians. The *only* force against the communists were the Nazis.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[kiryandil]

     

[kiryandil]

That is possibly due to Ukrainians using civilians as human shields. It was obvious from day one, watching the hysterical TV coverage, that they ate lying to us.

Contrary to to the claims of Eurostooge clowns on this thread, we have this from just this morning:

Ukraine closes humanitarian corridors because it says Russia may attack them
March 28, 202210:46 AM ET
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089167897/ukraine-closes-humanitarian-corridors-because-it-says-russia-may-attack-them

Looks like the UkroNazis are using civilians as human shields to me...

[kelly4c]

“Nazis.” Are they any more real than WMD’s in Iraq were? I’ve heard both yay and nay. Wait till the dust settles and Putin can either say oops my bad or see told ya so.

[kelly4c]

Militarily... no.

[kelly4c]

Yup

[kiryandil]

One of the purposes of the humanitarian corridors is to facilitate desertion from the Ukrainian forces [hat-tip to the The Duran for that tidbit].

That's why Zel's thugboys can't allow any of the corridors.

[kelly4c]

Impossible. Ukrainians are all angels.

[Sirius Lee]

We mustn’t allow MAGA to be associated with mass murdering Putinist filth. It will be the electoral end our movement.

Don't want MAGA associated with the buttSchwab NWO pedophiles either, which is Zelensky's side.

Maybe real Americans need to sit this one out.

[CarolinaReaganFan]

If you don’t engage in ethnic cleansing and shoot artillery for 7 years at a minority who opts out of a coup, the neighboring big brother of those people won’t invade you either.

So there’s that.

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well said.
as long as Z’s bank account is rising from our taxpayer dollars(less the big guy’s 10%),he’ll fight til the last Ukranian is dead.It is immoral to send them weapons.