Posted on 03/21/2022 1:53:25 PM PDT by Beave Meister
It has been true for years: Mile for mile, it’s cheaper — generally much cheaper — to recharge an electric vehicle than it is to refuel one with an internal-combustion engine.
That has been a key selling point for Tesla and other EV makers, particularly in times when gas prices have soared, such as now. But this time there’s a wrinkle: While gas prices have indeed soared in the wake of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, so have electricity prices — particularly in some parts of the U.S. that have been big markets for Tesla’s EVs.
That raises a question: Is it still true that it’s much cheaper to “refuel” an EV? The charts below, which show how much the cost to add 100 miles of range to the average EV or internal-combustion vehicle has changed in different markets over time, help us find the answer.
The first chart, using nationwide figures, provides a baseline. The others use data specific to Boston and San Francisco, two markets where EVs are popular — and where electricity tends to be more expensive than the national average.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...
If you think gas lines are going to be bad wait until you see the lines for charging batteries.
Electricity costs, for the most part, are highly regulated. It will still rise in cost, and those increases will be permanent
It is worse than that. Lets say the average battery replacement costs after a 7 year life span is $15,000. That is an additional average costs per year of $2,100. We haven't gotten to the part about the pollution caused by manufacturing the batteries.
It would be interesting to know the time it takes to charge the battery for that extra 100 miles versus the 5 minutes or so it takes to pump 4 gallons of gas.
I know you said you do it off hours but it would be interesting to know.
20 to 25 cents. I’d be biting a cyanide capsule if I had to pay that.
See Tagline for answer.
charging stations pay road tax just like ice cars?
Yes and my time is worth something too. Time to fill a gas tank vs: time to charge is a consideration.
I’ve got five friends who drive Teslas. They tell me that their equivalent energy cost is running as low as a 1/4 of what gasoline would be running them. In my part of SoCal regular gas is $5.60 to $6.00. Apparently their cars include a calculator if they want to figure this out.
Two of these drivers had 2014 Model S’s. One still had 80% battery capacity when he traded it in for a 2021. The other crashed his 2014 before replacing it and he never mentioned what percentage his old battery still had.
I was wondering the same thing. The article lacks necessary details about the facts to have any meaning.
And, you had better hope there is no disruption to the grid, such as storms, an errant squirrel running across a wire, or a deliberate hack or attack.
“battery capacity”
That sounds like the wrong calculation.
You’d need to know the amount of electricity used to get to that battery capacity.
There is always loss.
You’d basically have to turn off everything but your garage outlets from the breaker box and check the kWhr difference is on your meter, before and after charging.
Except for owners of 2013 and 2014 Teslas. They pay nothing to charge at Tesla stations.
Fast charging is hard on the batteries. They’re better off only using those when necessary.
Personally, I have no problems with alternative energy and specifically EVs, but it is not the government's job or the taxpayer's responsibility to pay for it.
The manufacturers will not have huge warehouses full of spare batteries. When your EV battery needs to be replaced, you will have a VERY LONG WAIT to get a new one.
Further, the dealers won’t want EV’s with dead batteries stored behind their dealerships for long periods.
Your “dead” EV will have to be stored somewhere and it will have to be towed to that location and then towed to a dealer when your replacement battery arrives.
Cities, counties and states will no doubt charge BIG disposal fees for getting rid of dead batteries that contain toxic chemicals.
Also, cities and counties will almost certainly pass strict laws about long-term storage of bad EV batteries/cars awaiting replacement.
The reason gas car costs more than electricity is because of the spike in gas prices. At $2 a gallon, gas is competitive with electric cars.
Now, with the spike in gas prices, these people say “EV is cheaper!” But riddle me this Batman - when fuel prices go up, what happens to electricity prices?
This is largely an illusion caused by the lag in adjusting utility rates.
“Absolutely. In California they have already asked residents to avoid charging your electric vehicle amid power grid strain...”
That’s not due to EVs. It’s because the idiots in charge of this state are climate change zealots. They have even been shutting down our nuke plants which aren’t emitting any carbon.
Natural gas is pretty darned abundant.
Just ask the frackers.
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