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The Battle in Mariupol Is Intense and Filled With Western Propaganda – Russian Military Fighting Ukrainian Azov Battalions and Ultranationalists in Eastern Region
CTH ^ | 3/20/2022 | Sundance

Posted on 03/21/2022 5:44:54 AM PDT by logi_cal869

The picture in Eastern Ukraine is becoming clearer as the residents begin being able to talk openly about the key battleground in Mariupol.

Keep in mind, the western narrative about the battles in Eastern Ukraine are all framed around calling the Ukrainian military, spearheaded by the Azov battalions and the ultranationalists, as the good guys. Nothing could be further from the truth. According to increasingly obvious reports, coming from ordinary citizens in/around Mariupol, the Ukrainian army has been using them as human shields and keeping them from evacuating.

There is a lot of war fog surrounding the conflict, however, it is the absence of any pro-Ukraine army sentiment from the local residents that supports the evidence the Ukraine military (Azov Nazi battalion, supported by U.S. and NATO alliance) are actually the bad guys in this region. The eastern region conflict has been ongoing for years, with Russia supporting the residents and the Ukraine military attacking them.

The Russian army has been fighting the Ukraine military in/around Mariupol while the Azov battalions have kept the citizens captive. However, the Russians are now surrounding the Ukraine military and slowly clearing each of the surrounding villages allowing the formerly captive people to leave or seek safety.

At least in this part of the conflict, the U.S. and NATO alliance is supporting the brutality against Eastern Ukrainian citizens by supporting the Nazi factions of the Ukraine military. There is a genocide happening in this region, but it is the Ukraine military, the far-right ultranationalists in the Azov battalions and others doing the killing, not the Russians.

If the residents in Eastern Ukraine do not align with the ultranationalist factions of the Ukraine military and fight the Russians, they are subjected to gross human rights abuses, beatings and threats against their families. Western nations are supporting this activity and deploying extreme propaganda messaging to cover it up.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: azovbattalion; bidensnazis; fakenews; frnaziapologists; mariupol; russia; ukraine; ukrainegenocide
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To: pierrem15

“Some of the “war crimes” charges against both sides seem like nonsense to me, as you can’t defend a city without putting civilians at risk”

While there’s still going to spillover into civilian areas, it does seems to me that you can let them leave buildings if you plan on using those buildings as firing positions.


21 posted on 03/21/2022 6:32:40 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: tlozo; MalPearce

Chum really does work.

Whooda thunk.

/s


22 posted on 03/21/2022 6:33:25 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Oh noes! Russia not bad. Freepers goin to lose their minds! 😮


23 posted on 03/21/2022 6:34:02 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: logi_cal869

The woman taped to a pole being whipped by a soldier (video) is too much.

Dangling her purse, one heel up, dramatically begging like poorly acted porn.


24 posted on 03/21/2022 6:35:59 AM PDT by jcon40 (Machinery is only as good as its design and quality of parts. A citizen is only as good as...)
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To: marktwain

The Azov brigade is the Khazarian mafia. They need to be wiped out.


25 posted on 03/21/2022 6:36:07 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: logi_cal869

The author needs to check a map. Mariupol is inside Ukraine. The Russians are the invaders. The Russians started this war, one that is now claimIng thousands and thousands of civilian casualties.

It’s all on Russia, period.


26 posted on 03/21/2022 6:37:20 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: logi_cal869

This article reflects my experience in Central and Eastern Ukraine. The BS coming from Western News Sources is worse than Pravda was during the Cold War!


27 posted on 03/21/2022 6:44:57 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: logi_cal869

Likely both sides in the battle for Mariupol has its bad actors and adding to the problem. Reports like this say UKR forces are not letting civilians out while BBC reports have RUS troops are denigrating, imprisoning, and torturing civilians that they have on their custody. Too much bias reporting to see what really is happening and outliers and maybe lies foster propaganda.


28 posted on 03/21/2022 6:52:28 AM PDT by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: logi_cal869

I don’t know if they are glowies, trolls, or fools, but being on the same side as Biden, Lindsey Graham, the MSM, the billionaires, Schwab, and Soros would give me pause. These people suck off Ukraine and have destroyed my country. They want us to eat bugs and weeds.

Putin may be a piece of hot garbage. But these other people certainly are.


29 posted on 03/21/2022 6:55:25 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: tlozo

Was that the region being shelled by Ukraine after the 2014 coup?


30 posted on 03/21/2022 7:00:02 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: marktwain

Who wants to control a pile of rubble?


31 posted on 03/21/2022 7:00:41 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: pierrem15

The Russian military is looking for anyone with Nazi tattoos.


32 posted on 03/21/2022 7:01:35 AM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: wastedyears
The Russian military is looking for anyone with Nazi tattoos.

To do what?

33 posted on 03/21/2022 7:07:43 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: logi_cal869

At one time there were ethnic Russians actually living in Ukraine. Maybe not many but they were the largest ethnic minority in the country. But if you listen to the reporting today everyone is ethnic Ukrainian.


34 posted on 03/21/2022 7:08:50 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Politicians are to America as oligarchs are to Russia. )
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To: Leaning Right
It’s all on Russia, period.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. You keep that warm blanket and I'll keep my backplate.

/s

35 posted on 03/21/2022 7:14:26 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: wastedyears
Who wants to control a pile of rubble?

The Russians.

Why? Because their initial plan failed. They expected the Ukrainians to fold.

They do not have a good backup plan. They are not willing to leave, so all they have left is to destroy the city to rubble.

If you have dedicated defenders, you have to do that to take a city.

I am sure, they would much rather have taken the city intact.

But when the choice is to reduce the city to rubble and not be executed by Putin's enforcers, or fail to take the city, and be executed, you reduce the city to rubble.

36 posted on 03/21/2022 7:16:07 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: CodeJockey; All
At one time there were ethnic Russians actually living in Ukraine. Maybe not many but they were the largest ethnic minority in the country. But if you listen to the reporting today everyone is ethnic Ukrainian.

If Ukraine survives as a country, Putin will have been responsible for creating a unified country where one did not exist before.

There fight and survival will define them for the next two generations. Russian speakers, Ukrainian speakers (about like Portuguese and Spanish), they will all be Ukrainians who bravely fought the mighty Russians to a standstill and avoided enslavement by the evil Putin.

However, they may not survive.

We may be witnessing the birth of a nation.

37 posted on 03/21/2022 7:19:57 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: logi_cal869

I doubt there are enough real Nazis in Ukraine to fill a high school gymnasium.

L


38 posted on 03/21/2022 7:27:33 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: marktwain

We may be witnessing the birth of a nation
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Exactly, but not what the west wants: The two provinces in the Donbass area have declared their independence from Ukraine- a major reason for this war. They to have had atrocities committed against them by the Azov and Neo Nazis that the Ukies integrated into their military.
That said, the Donbass Seperatists since 2014 have been shelled and bombed by the Ukies. My advice to Zelensky, let them have their independence, they have been a thorn to the Ukies, get negotiating.


39 posted on 03/21/2022 7:35:38 AM PDT by delta7
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To: BobL
While there’s still going to spillover into civilian areas, it does seems to me that you can let them leave buildings if you plan on using those buildings as firing positions.

It's not exactly a stroll in the park to leave an apartment building in Mariupol. They can't have the civilians go out in the open and the civilians won't leave the basements anyway. It's like Warsaw in 1944.

40 posted on 03/21/2022 7:39:40 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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