Posted on 03/19/2022 9:16:26 AM PDT by Steely Tom
I've been listening (for the umpteenth time) to the C-SPAN interview of Robert Caro (by Brian Lamb). Robert Caro is the author of an enormously detailed history of the life and career of Lyndon Johnson. Also for the umpteenth time, I listened to this exchange between Brian Lamb (BL) and Robert Caro (RC) concerning the "Box 13 Scandal," which was Johnson's stepping stone to the United States Senate. This exchange begins about 27 minutes, 30 seconds (27:30) into the video linked above.
BL: You have a chapter in this book devoted to his wife, and someone who is still alive… Lady Bird Johnson. Here is a photograph… Do you happen to remember what year this photo was taken?RC: 1948.
BL: And what was he (LBJ) doing in this year?
RC: He was running for senate against the man on the other side of the page, the man with the pipe, Coke Stevenson.
BL: Who at that time was… ?
RC: Well… he was the former governor of Texas. He was running against Johnson, for the senate.
BL: And the outcome of this election?
RC: Johnson won by 87 votes out of about a million votes that were cast.
BL: And one of the points that you make in this book is that he stole the election.
RC: The election was stolen, yes.
BL: And how do you prove that?
RC: Well, I prove it… it's not even.. It's not actually that hard to prove. It's just that nobody, apparently, did it. There are more than a thousand pages of court transcripts… see, hearings were held on this at the time and more than a thousand pages of testimony were taken, in which all the witnesses are testifying the same way. Except for one. That man was… that one is a man named Luis Salas, who was the election judge in the crucial precinct, Box 13, in Jim Wells County. Now he testified to the opposite of all the other people. I found Mr. Salas in Houston, in 1986. He was then quite old, but clear of mind. And I asked him about the discrepancy between his testimony and everybody else's. And he said "Well that's simple, Robert… I lied under oath." And he then told me, and took me in great detail, through the story of what happened in Box 13. And this time, his story simply corroborated what everybody else had said.
BL: In this photograph, Bob Caro, Luis Salas is over here on the… don't know if you can see him yet…
(Brian Lamb is holding the relevant page up for the camera and pointing)
RC: No, down...
BL: over here on the… the far… as you are looking at the screen, the far right… ?
RC: No, the man to the bottom… is Luis Salas.
BL: Oh ok, right there…
RC: As you can see, Luis Salas there is this huge gun toting, burly enforcer for George Parr, the "Duke of Duval." When I went to see him, I guess I had this mental image of that's what he looked like, but of course he was 84 years old; the man who opened the door for me was a stooped, gentle, rather frail old man… gold-rimmed glasses.
Caro left some stuff out.
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“Just get me some names off the gravestones...they would have voted for me if they could...”lol
Dan Rather’s phrase was, “Fake. But accurate.”
Beat me to it. Well done.
Dorothy Kilgallen. Clay Shaw. Carlos Marcello and Santos Trafficante. Charles Harrelson and Lee Edward Bowers. And more.
I've tried to educate myself as much as I can on the subject of the Kennedy Assassination, and to me it all — on the Oswald did it vs. Oswald was the patsy issue — comes down to one single, critical question.
And that question is this: who shot officer J. D. Tippit? If the answer to that question is Oswald, then Oswald shot Kennedy.
If the answer is not Oswald, then the floodgates open.
Oswald killed Tippett and Kennedy. Given JFK’s poor health, any cabal that wanted to kill him could have done it any number of ways that did not involve a head shot in front of hundreds of people, and that would have been thwarted by JFK himself deciding to keep the roof on the car instead of having it taken off.
This should not be the first time I have encountered that quote, but it is.
I don’t think Mike Huckabee should talk about dogs, considering he and his son’s involvement with them.
I must have missed their involvement with dogs. What’s that?
And that question is this: who shot officer J. D. Tippit? If the answer to that question is Oswald, then Oswald shot Kennedy.
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I too have read just about everything published re the JFK hit. Your assumption re who shot Tippit may be correct, but it doesn’t address the questions of (1) whether he was the only shooter, or (2) whether he was a player in a conspiracy involving others. And there are many “others” who for various reasons wanted JFK to be eliminated.
The two big problems with the Kennedy assassination are (1) there were so many entities that needed him to be gone, and (2) the investigation that followed the event was so botched, and manipulated, and fiddled with, that loose ends and mysteries were generated by the score.
One of the biggest was this, although there were of course many, many others: Oswald was never given a gunshot residue test.
How incredible it would have been if he was not only a patsy, but a patsy who was actually guilty of firing on the President.
One of the main things I remember from the news coverage on TV that day (I was in the third grade) was all the people swarming up the hill to the "grassy knoll." At the time, I thought they must be running to get out of the way of something. Only years later did I learn that they were running toward (what they thought was) where gunshots had come from. I say "what they thought was," although they may have thought gunfire came from where gunfire actually came from. At least one witness with a military background smelled gunsmoke in the air as he ran up the hill.
Here's a link to one of the videos: Who is Ruth Paine? How was she involved with Lee Harvey Oswald and JFK?.
If you click on the name of the YT channel ("America's Untold Stories") you can watch many more.
Mark Groubert was involved with making Oliver Stone's movie JFK, in which Jim Garrison is made out to be a hero.
I have to say I've watched everything I can about Jim Garrison, and I believe he actually was a hero.
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Excellent source of a mountain of evidence leading to the conclusion that LBJ planned the assassination of JFK.
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