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War Propaganda About Ukraine Becoming More Militaristic, Authoritarian, and Reckless
Greenwald Substack ^ | 02/27/2022 | Glenn Greenwald

Posted on 03/08/2022 10:37:56 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski

In the weeks leading up to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, those warning of the possible dangers of U.S. involvement were assured that such concerns were baseless. The prevailing line insisted that nobody in Washington is even considering let alone advocating that the U.S. become militarily involved in a conflict with Russia.

That the concern was based not on the belief that the U.S. would actively seek such a war, but rather on the oft-unintended consequences of being swamped with war propaganda and the high levels of tribalism, jingoism and emotionalism that accompany it, was ignored. It did not matter how many wars one could point to in history that began unintentionally, with unchecked, dangerous tensions spiraling out of control. Anyone warning of this obviously dangerous possibility was met with the “straw man” cliché: you are arguing against a position that literally nobody in D.C. is defending.

Less than a week into this war, that can no longer be said. One of the media's most beloved members of Congress, Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), on Friday explicitly and emphatically urged that the U.S. military be deployed to Ukraine to establish a “no-fly zone” — i.e., American soldiers would order Russia not to enter Ukrainian airspace and would directly attack any Russian jets or other military units which disobeyed. That would, by definition and design, immediately ensure that the two countries with by far the planet's largest nuclear stockpiles would be fighting one another, all over Ukraine.

Kinzinger's fantasy that Russia would instantly obey U.S. orders due to rational calculations is directly at odds with all the prevailing narratives about Putin having now become an irrational madman who has taken leave of his senses — not just metaphorically but medically — and is prepared to risk everything for conquest and legacy…

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: bidensbuttgirls; chechens; chechnya; propaganda; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; russia; russianaggression; ukraine; vladthebloviator; vladtheimploder; war; zottherussiantrolls
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To: Travis McGee

“Keyboard Commando”

Nice. That gave me a good chuckle and is a keeper for future use. There is no shortage of opportunity here on FR with so many chowder heads spewing so much bravado.


21 posted on 03/08/2022 11:15:32 AM PST by Qui is (First, never apologize to the enemy, and second, never forget that Biden spews and Harris swallows. )
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To: circlecity
Keep pushing for WW3

How am I pushing for WW3? Think rationally for a moment.

What country have I advocated to invade?

Have I called for troops to enter Ukraine?

Is it because I support Ukraine's efforts to fight an aggressor? How does that make me the one "pushing" for WW3? Can you explain it in any rational way?

22 posted on 03/08/2022 11:16:08 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: katie didit

Actually, you are right!


23 posted on 03/08/2022 11:16:15 AM PST by dforest
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To: Who is John Galt?

I don’t like Putin, However it seems that Whatever force is behind this propaganda campaign is frighteningly intelligent. They seem to be goading Putin into creating another Eastern World Order with Middle East ambitions. Jews and Christians who are up on Bible Prophecy, know the scriptures of a Russian/Iranian/Turkish invasion of Israel. Is the NWO pushing Putin into fulfilling Ezekiel 38-39?


24 posted on 03/08/2022 11:16:19 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Sorry, I'm not signing up for either side of Uncle Klaus's planned war.

You do know he's playing both sides, right? He just wants millions dead and the global economy ruined, to set up his "Great Reset."

You do understand this, right? You are not a total retard?


25 posted on 03/08/2022 11:16:34 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

The Frog Spirits of Revelation 16.


26 posted on 03/08/2022 11:16:37 AM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: Travis McGee
You do know he's playing both sides, right?

Did Uncle Klaus make Russia invade Ukraine? Or are you just a nutbag?

27 posted on 03/08/2022 11:17:25 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Who is John Galt?

Americans have become mostly stupid.


28 posted on 03/08/2022 11:18:07 AM PST by dforest
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To: Who is John Galt?
This website lost a ton of credibility back in March 2020 when I saw how many so-called "freedom-loving conservatives" had no hesitation about getting on here and scolding me for refusing to shut down my business and hide under my bed in fear under government orders that had no basis in any facts and no legitimacy under the law.

The term "Branch Covidians" -- one of the best descriptive terms I've seen here on FR -- was born soon after that.

29 posted on 03/08/2022 11:18:24 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: Travis McGee

Cardinal Vigano had an interesting piece about this the other day. He reviewed the recent history of the Ukraine and described all the meddling that the CIA, Soros, and other globalists have been involved in over there. He views the Ukrainians as dupes who are actually fighting a war other than the war they think they are fighting. The are not fighting for their freedom and national independence, but to be subsumed into a globalist New World Order.


30 posted on 03/08/2022 11:18:37 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Travis McGee

I’m going to humble myself here and ask for help, because I fear I’m missing a funny joke: Who is the asterisked eyepatch dude in the picture?


31 posted on 03/08/2022 11:21:48 AM PST by MissNomer
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I support Ukraine's efforts to fight an aggressor

Ergo you’re pushing for WWIII. Logic 101, you know.

32 posted on 03/08/2022 11:22:57 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: MissNomer

Rep. Crenshaw, Texas (R)


33 posted on 03/08/2022 11:24:05 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Not our war
stay out
don’t provide weapons
neocons gonna neocon


34 posted on 03/08/2022 11:24:08 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
"Did Uncle Klaus make Russia invade Ukraine? Or are you just a nutbag?"

Of course they didn't "make" him invade, but it seems that everything the West has done in recent years - accelerating with Biden - has made Putin think it was a risk worth taking. Read some of the history.
35 posted on 03/08/2022 11:24:51 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle; Travis McGee
has made Putin think it was a risk worth taking

That poster is not making an argument of "western weakness invited an invasion." They genuinely believe the West is pushing and causing the war in a grand conspiracy, with Putin as someone who has been "forced" to go to war due to Western aggression.

36 posted on 03/08/2022 11:27:38 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
"Praise be to the name of God for ever and ever;
wisdom and power are his.
He changes times and seasons;
he deposes kings and raises up others.
He gives wisdom to the wise
and knowledge to the discerning."

37 posted on 03/08/2022 11:27:52 AM PST by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: Travis McGee

Cute


38 posted on 03/08/2022 11:28:32 AM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The west is pushing a war. Just the way it is.


39 posted on 03/08/2022 11:29:04 AM PST by dforest
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To: Travis McGee

😂

👍🏼


40 posted on 03/08/2022 11:29:44 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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