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I think the US is backing the wrong side in the Ukraine invasion
Self / Freerepublic | 03 March 2022 | Self

Posted on 03/01/2022 8:22:34 PM PST by ShadowAce

I have come to believe that the US is backing the wrong side in the Ukrainian invasion, and it is not an accident.

Trump and Putin were the two most powerful nationalistic leaders in the world. They have zero interest in the Great Rest or the New World Order. They are all about their own countries--as they should be. They were chosen to lead their respective country--not as governors for some world leader we may or may not know about (Deep State).

Trump was "defeated" in 2020 at the polls and dismissed from leadership. We all know what happened with that, and there is no need to go into it any more. Biden, the ultimate puppet figurehead is now in place.

As FreeRepublic has already documented, George Soros has spoken his support for Ukraine, and Ukraine itself has spoken the quiet part out loud. This war was a trap for Putin, and he jumped in with both feet.

Putin is currently undergoing his own purge. With this invasion he was forced into, he will lose control of his country and will probably be forced into "retirement." While I was not aware of Ukrainian military abilities, it should be obvious to anyone on this board that Putin SHOULD have been fully aware of what the Ukrainian military can do, and what his own military can do. I can only conclude that he was given false information on both of these topics by his own people, leading to this invasion. It seems to me that Putin now has two options--lose this war, or go big. Both are scary for him and the world.

To our north, Trudeau is playing the puppet very well, so he will continue to "lead" Canada. I think we all know he does not call the shots up there, either.

I believe that I know who *does* call the shows around the world, but that is an opinion for another time.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: anotherstupidvanity; closetcommie; greatreset; ibtz; neocons; putinpuffers; putinsbuttboys; shadowace; shadowacewasright; sorosbuttboys; sorospuffers; stupidvanity; tds; theshadowknows; ukraine; vanity; vikingkitties; worstopusever; zot
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To: CodeToad

Here is they way I see it, and actually we should all stop falling for the psyops. They are both bad guys, Why are we are we being shamed into to supporting one bad guy over another bad guy? This thing is like a car thief stealing a car from another car thief. Why would we support one thief over the other thief? I doesn’t change that they are both still thieves...


221 posted on 03/02/2022 4:54:06 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I have stated for over 40 years that if the people of Mexico rose up against their own corrupt government I would immediately volunteer to go help fight. I would still be willing to do this right now.

It would not be the first time the U.S. has gone to war for humanitarian reasons. And we have policed territories yet still restricted immigration from those territories. And after we “thought” they were fixed (could have been but we handled it wrong) we then gave them back to the people.


222 posted on 03/02/2022 5:16:24 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: nickcarraway
I'm not sure I understand what you want.

The thread title itself indicates I have no proof. This is my opinion, and I also understand we are not seeing everything going on with this situation. I'm just pointing out a couple pieces of evidence that indicate that Ukraine may not be the side we want to be on--regardless of the media narrative.

223 posted on 03/02/2022 5:20:09 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: Openurmind

That’s not why we were in Afghanistan.

I didn’t say our agencies were cute or innocent.

As for the corruption of the Ukraine government, at this point the war is against the whole nation and people, not just beurocrats.


224 posted on 03/02/2022 5:45:33 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

“That’s not why we were in Afghanistan.”

And what you were told is exactly what you were told to think...


225 posted on 03/02/2022 6:20:20 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

I agree. I am all for staying out of this. If it escalates to the point it directly affects us then kick their ass and get it done quick.


226 posted on 03/02/2022 6:40:04 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: hardspunned

What are you saying? Are on the Communist side?


227 posted on 03/02/2022 8:31:37 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: ReaganGeneration2
Why any side? They’re all thugs. None of our business

This. It's a KGB Commie vs apparently an NWO/Jewish/Nazi.

Let them fight it out and poke fun at both the winner and the loser...

Draw the real "now you've done it Vlad" line when he tries to pull the same shit with Poland.

228 posted on 03/02/2022 8:47:45 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: tallyhoe

I’m on the American side. I’m surprised you jumped from the American side to the Biden/Obama/DS/Corrupt Ukrainian oligarch side. And your being scammed onto the team by the B/O/DS/CUO disinformation machine is just sad.


229 posted on 03/02/2022 8:49:49 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: ShadowAce

Don’t assume that Putin is on your side or that Zelensky is against it. It’s more complicated than that. I wouldn’t reduce Ukraine’s desire for independence and respect to support for Soros. I doubt they even give him much thought over there.


230 posted on 03/02/2022 8:56:22 PM PST by x (Every politician, every human being, has done something that offends us. )
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To: hardspunned

I am not on zero’s/Biden side. I am against the Communist period.. Putin is a bad guy. He is a communist as is Zero Biden..


231 posted on 03/02/2022 10:37:41 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: hardspunned

WE should invade Cuba since it leans to the communist side and not pro-America..


232 posted on 03/02/2022 10:39:27 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe

We absolutely were going to devastate Cuba and the world to rid our border of weapons that were as destabilizing as massed NATO armored divisions on the Ukrainian border. You tell me, a communist takeover of Mexico resulting in thousands of Russian tanks spread across our southern border would result in what? The Russians backed down to save all of us during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Will the US puppets in Ukraine be as sensible as Khrushchev was?


233 posted on 03/03/2022 3:43:43 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: tallyhoe

And you’re ready to follow Biden into WWIII over what? Keeping that DS/American Democrat Party cash resister in Ukraine ringing? DC devastated the Middle East, with my idiot support, for 20 years to make the world safe for Raytheon. It took me until January of ‘21 to realize why the lying DC DS was eliminating yellow cake uranium in Iraq for the last 20 years. How many more trillions borrowed and dead American boys do you support to maintain the corrupt oligarchs in Kiev and Washington DC all fat and happy?


234 posted on 03/03/2022 4:00:49 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Openurmind
Well, the people of Mexico and the rest of Central America aren't rising up against their governments and begging to be conquered by us gringos.

You can send your kids or grandkids off to fight a never-ending insurgency in our new Latin American provinces. Me and mine will just stay on our side of the border.

235 posted on 03/03/2022 5:36:47 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: hardspunned

And you’re ready to follow Biden into WWIII over what? Keeping that DS/American Democrat Party cash resister in Ukraine ringing? DC devastated the Middle East, with my idiot support, for 20 years to make the world safe for Raytheon. It took me until January of ‘21 to realize why the lying DC DS was eliminating yellow cake uranium in Iraq for the last 20 years. How many more trillions borrowed and dead American boys do you support to maintain the corrupt oligarchs in Kiev and Washington DC all fat and happy?

You are blowing smoke. I never said anything about going to war.. It is to late to do anything now.. Help arm them cut off Russia’s money supply.. We are in a Global chess game and Swizzle stick go out maneuvered.. As soon as Russia started moving their assets toward Ukraine we should have put troops in there.. Then Pukin wouldn’t have dared to cross the border.. but now it is to late. We need to put troop in Taiwan now!!!!


236 posted on 03/03/2022 2:55:31 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: tallyhoe

Good Lord, put troops in!! You damn neocons never tire of wasting American blood and borrowed trillions. “I never said anything about going to war”, “we should have put troops in Ukraine AND Taiwan”. What a card you are. Where are you going to find another Bush to elect? The wasted borrowed trillions go to stupid SJW BS now. You warmongering neocons do everything you can to funnel the trillions back to Bush/Raytheon Inc.


237 posted on 03/03/2022 4:15:49 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: tallyhoe

Good Lord, put troops in!! You damn neocons never tire of wasting American blood and borrowed trillions. “I never said anything about going to war”, “we should have put troops in Ukraine AND Taiwan”. What a card you are. Where are you going to find another Bush to elect? The wasted borrowed trillions go to stupid SJW BS now. You warmongering neocons do everything you can to funnel the trillions back to DC DS/Bush/Raytheon Inc.


238 posted on 03/03/2022 4:24:55 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: CodeJockey

It’s not our problem.

Just seeing how hard the enemies of America are cheer-leading for America to join in the conflict should be a clue.

Those beating the war-drums the loudest are the same people that hate America the most.

Ukraine’s current government is a corrupt mafia oligarchy just the same as Russia.


239 posted on 03/03/2022 4:34:47 PM PST by 13foxtrot
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To: wardaddy

We are as poorly led as we are informed


Deserved repeating.


240 posted on 03/03/2022 4:39:42 PM PST by Yaelle
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