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Capital punishment drops, murder rates jump. Coincidence?
https://americanthinker.com/blog/2022/02/capital_punishment_drops ^

Posted on 02/21/2022 6:22:13 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET

capital punishment is an expression of society's moral outrage at particularly offensive conduct. This function may be unappealing to many, but it is essential in an ordered society that asks its citizens to rely on legal processes rather than self-help to vindicate their wrongs..."

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An unappealing subject. Somebody has to step up and be the bad guy. Is it wrong or are we getting soft?

I'm thinking of this UBER driver in Penn., mom to 4 kids. Needed uber money, pleaded for her life. It's happening.

1 posted on 02/21/2022 6:22:13 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Not a coincidence, but not a singular cause either. Society is sinking lower as it abandons its moral religious principals and admits more and more criminal illegal aliens inside its borders.


2 posted on 02/21/2022 6:24:43 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (Democracy is two dead Democrats and a Republican voting who's brains are for dinner.)
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*Capital punishment, still on the books in 24 states, continues a long fadeout.*

In this world the US is one of the few left. Critics point to the only others: China, Iran, and South Africa(during apartheid).

We have too many wannabe incarcerateds out there. They are getting the go-ahead to break all laws, not just the capital crimes. Life imprisonment(without bail) is a non-starter. It’s never carried out. At some point it becomes cruel and unusual, depending on who’s in office. Is banishment an option? I’m thinking of cost control and just getting these animals out of our way. Every society has to deal with their criminals. Some countries have low crime(Japan)-wouldn’t want to live there.


3 posted on 02/21/2022 6:33:39 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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Both trends reflect the same underlying issue: a breakdown in the community’s willingness to hold the perpetrator responsible for his own actions. The relationship between violent crime and capital punishment btw is subtle but clear: while capital punishment being on the books does not affect violent crime in general, it does definitely deter capital crimes. And swift enactment of the death penalty deters capital crimes even further. In other words, criminals are smart enough to realize that if they stand a good chance of being executed for their crime, they tend not to be as likely to do it.
4 posted on 02/21/2022 6:37:13 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

When you allow Satan’s animals to run free in the world - you suffer the consequence of their deeds!


5 posted on 02/21/2022 6:38:25 AM PST by high info voter
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To: DIRTYSECRET

This is a poorly written article by someone who has never done research. Look at a list of the (bleep) hole countries that still have capital punishment versus the civilized countries that don’t have capital punishment and get back to me. Japan is the only country I have any respect for that still have capital punishment. Why trust the government to determine who dies and who doesn’t?


6 posted on 02/21/2022 6:39:44 AM PST by Clemenza (I have no tolerance for tolerance)
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Capital punishment is not a deterrent. Maybe it was at a time in history when justice was swift (like pre-1930).

Since the 60's, the destruction of the family and elimination of God are the two most impactful issues that are destroying our society and country.

7 posted on 02/21/2022 6:46:24 AM PST by Paco
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It all started with Miranda and the suspects’ rights. Never mind the dead victim.


8 posted on 02/21/2022 7:01:40 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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It costs millions(legal) to administer the punishment. I still say banishment to an island penal colony staffed by 3rd world types who work cheap. It’s like a cruse ship with no frills. We gotta get these people outta sight and outta mind. Too much going on in the penal system for (non)advocates to exploit.


9 posted on 02/21/2022 7:11:44 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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Hear hear!


10 posted on 02/21/2022 7:15:58 AM PST by DownInFlames (P)
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I say declare California a penal colony. They already have the third world workers needed and I’m sure Newsom would love to be the warden. Build a wall around it and let fly.


11 posted on 02/21/2022 7:18:43 AM PST by JayAr36 (Just watching the demise of America.)
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Capitol punishment used to happen within 40 days of the crime. Now it is 20 or more years. I still remember the 1960s when outgoing state governors would commute all death row inmates to life in prison.

The murderers of Presidents got executed within 40 days of the crime.
Ecclesiastes 8:11-13
11 When a sentence against a crime isn’t carried out quickly, people are encouraged to commit crimes.


12 posted on 02/21/2022 7:59:35 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (FB Jail for saying the gov't forces churches to accept fags who then molest kids.)
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The rate of recidivism among murderers who have had a capital sentence properly administered is 00.0000000000000000000000000%.


13 posted on 02/21/2022 9:07:17 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I disagree. Government has not just proven itself incompetent in carrying out CP, but radically extends the life of those sentenced to die, usually the “worst of the worst”. Alternatively, what *does* substantially raise the number of those villains who are executed is gun liberty.

For example, police responding to a disturbance call find a maniac holding a bloody butchers knife standing over the bodies of a family as he plunges the blade into a cadaver, police are then *required* to arrest him, beginning an at least 20 year free form legal dance.

However an armed citizen seeing the same thing may choose to carry out CP “on the spot”, ridding society of a monster and without wasting at least $2m. No lawyers, no appeals, no liberal judges opposed to CP by whim. He can argue his case before Saint Peter. Or Cerebus, as the case may be.

So think about it. How many monsters by the inefficient government, vs. how many by honest citizens?


14 posted on 02/21/2022 9:09:40 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (META - Make Everything Trump Again)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Been this way most of my long life. People confuse speculative prison conditions with justice. They also deliberately withhold facts from heinous crimes in the media.

We saw the death penalty vanish back in the sixties and seventies and when in came back it was giving them gas, and the libs bitched about the gas.


15 posted on 02/21/2022 10:24:11 AM PST by Luke21
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*Capitol punishment used to happen within 40 days of the crime. Now it is 20 or more years.*

That issue has to deal with an innocent man possibly being put to death .
My solution to that is simple: If he has a rap sheet a mile long the executioners then have an excuse to be wrong. Good for the gene pool, a la Travon.


16 posted on 02/21/2022 5:36:45 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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