Efficacy of Ivermectin Treatment on Disease Progression Among Adults With Mild to Moderate COVID-19 and Comorbidities

JAMA Network ^ | 2/18/2022 | Multiple

[semimojo]

Question: Does adding ivermectin, an inexpensive and widely available antiparasitic drug, to the standard of care reduce the risk of severe disease in patients with COVID-19 and comorbidities?

Findings: In this open-label randomized clinical trial of high-risk patients with COVID-19 in Malaysia, a 5-day course of oral ivermectin administered during the first week of illness did not reduce the risk of developing severe disease compared with standard of care alone.

Meaning: The study findings do not support the use of ivermectin for patients with COVID-19.

[bk1000]

I guess it was just a coincidence that I took ivermectin and my covid went away in a few days. Probably had no effect. Just a coincidence.

[qaz123]

The study findings do not support the use of ivermectin for patients with COVID-19.

I guess they didn’t talk to the people that I know that took it and felt fantastic by the 3rd morning.

Or talk to any of the doctors that have been proscribing it all over the country.

Or the older guy at my gym that came down with The Rona, went on Ivermectin and was fine in a few days. And said that he hasn’t felt that good in a long time.

[SoConPubbie]

Yea, I guess we have to ignore the real-life evidence of complete success in Indonesia and the states of India, right?

And the additional complete success shown by doctors all over the globe treating their patients with protocols that include Ivermectin?

[semimojo]

I guess it was just a coincidence that I took ivermectin and my covid went away in a few days.

I didn't take Ivermectin and my Covid went away in a few days.

That's what Covid usually does.

[bigbob]

Exactly. That’s the difference between coincidence and causation. Logic 101.

[DennisR]

It is probably impossible to know whether or not ivermectin and/or HCQ help battle Covid without doing laboratory experiments. In other words, place the Covid 19 virus in a petri dish (or whatever) and add ivermectin. See if it harms the virus at all. If it does, then it works. If not, it probably does not. Do the same with HCQ.

There is no realistic way of knowing whether or not any particular medication works on anyone’s body. Folks who were sick for three days with ivermectin might have still been sick three days without it.

[ransomnote]

Fortunately we have access to information outside Fauci’s control which proves Ivermectin is fantastic in treating Covid. Many treatment protocols in use since the beginning cut the risk of hospitalization and death among the most vulnerable elderly patients with comorbidities by 85%, and much better among those not high risk. Many FReepers report wild success with Ivermectin. Dr. McCullough, Dr. Mercola, Dr. Zelenko, Dr. Kory and others all report outstanding success, as do websites like https://ivmmeta.com/
which provides analysis of 78 Ivermectin studies.

MOre great evidence available in many other places, like this website set up by physicians Dr. McCullough, Dr. Zelenko, Dr. Reisch and many others:
https://earlycovidcare.org/review-the-evidence/

The vilification of Ivermectin by those waging medical warfare against us will be a feature of Nuremberg Trials 2.0.

[dkGba]

Does it say what Standard of Care is? Did it include remdesivir? What day did treatment start with Ivermectin? Was dose high enough? Comorbidities?

[qaz123]

But for some it doesn’t. And for some using Ivermectin saved their lives.

Ask the 80yr old woman in Buffalo who was in a coma and walked out of the hospital. She was given a 20% chance of living.

After judge orders hospital to use experimental Covid-19 treatment, woman recovers
https://buffalonews.com/news/local/after-judge-orders-hospital-to-use-experimental-covid-19-treatment-woman-recovers/article_a9eb315c-5694-11eb-aac5-53b541448755.html

[semimojo]

Does it say what Standard of Care is? Did it include remdesivir? What day did treatment start with Ivermectin? Was dose high enough? Comorbidities?

You realize there's a link to the study at the top of this post, right?

[semimojo]

Fortunately we have access to information outside Fauci’s control which proves Ivermectin is fantastic in treating Covid.

Fauci's controlling these researchers in Malaysia? That dude's a stud.

Many FReepers report wild success with Ivermectin.

And many FReepers, like me, had wild success without it.

Most people have wild success with Covid.

[jacknhoo]

Now, do the combination of FDA and TGA approved Ivermectin, Zinc and Doxycycline.

[Steve_Seattle]

I just went back to a compilation od studies for various Covid treatments that someone posted here a while back. The studies were of "all-stage" treatment, "early" treatment, and overall mortality reduction. Here is how Ivermectin fared and Remdesivir fared (the percentages reflect cases in which the drugs were found to be effective):

Ivermectin: 64%, 63%, and 54%

Remdesivir: 20%, 76%, and 19%

The Ivermectin studies (dozens of them - 78, 32, and 38, respectively) included between 55,000 and 85,000 patients. The sample for Remdesivir was a bit larger.

[Mr Rogers]

I took Ivermectin the first evening (severe fever) and my fever broke a few hours later. But...I’ve had severe fevers with flu before that broke in a few hours too. After 36 hours, I was left feeling like I had a bad head cold...which also reflects my standard flu scenario.

Did ivermectin help? Maybe. Maybe not. Given my age group (60s) catching Omicron has about a 1/2,000 chance of dying, it would take a HUGE sample size to find out!

But it did no harm (I have it in stock for my horses anyways) and it was the ONLY thing I had that MIGHT help. After all, no doctor would prescribe ANYTHING for me until I was severely ill - and a severe case of COVID is much harder to cure. In fact, since I wasn’t high risk of spreading it, I couldn’t even get a TEST for a week, and got my results (positive) on Day TEN!

What the media doesn’t like to admit is that having only 3-5 deaths in 1,000 COVID patients is normal. You couldn’t measure a reduced death rate without looking at 20,000+ patients, minimum. Because it just isn’t very dangerous....

[JayAr36]

JAMA contributing to the mistrust of the medical community.

Hard to know how to trust any of them after the BS they have been spewing for two years.

[semimojo]

Ask the 80yr old woman in Buffalo who was in a coma and walked out of the hospital. She was given a 20% chance of living.

I'm very happy for her but the purpose of a study like this is to move beyond the anecdotal.

[aquila48]

A major tenet of science is that any experimental result be reproducible by any and all, including skeptics, for its results to be considered valid.

I’d like to see some objective skeptics on our side perform the same clinical study and see what they come up with.

Seems like that would resolve the question of whether ivermectin is effective or not and get politics out of the equation.

Has any qualified organization on our side performed such a test?

[Steve_Seattle]

“a compilation od studies” s/b “a combination OF studies.” !#@!%#@@&!!

[ransomnote]

Good Article:

To Expose The Fauci(s) Of Malaysia, We Must Understand The Mind-Set Of A Psychopath! - Future Fast Forward

"I started my article with the above analysis because in Malaysia, we have a sycophantic and immature following, within the “medical industry” and the ranks of the political power addicts, of the infamous Dr. Anthony Fauci (Fauci), whose every utterance is accepted as unquestionable commandments. Even prophets and saints were never placed on such high pedestals.

I now invite each and every one of you to judge whether Fauci and the so-called respectable cohorts of doctors in Malaysia manipulated by power hungry politicians are psychopaths! One of the early signs or symptoms of a psychopathic doctor is the way they treat animals or the young and innocent."