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I just tried Shell’s EV charging hub — and it's not the future I want
Toms Guide ^ | 30 Jan 2022 | Tom Pritchard

Posted on 01/30/2022 10:32:05 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

A gas station-style forecourt isn't necessarily the best option

I’ve always been of the opinion that you should bring EV chargers to the people, rather than asking people to come to the chargers. But admittedly charging hubs aren’t very common, and until very recently they were all too far away to experience first hand.

But at the tail end of last year, Shell opened up its first EV charging hub in Fulham, in West London. It’s still pretty out of the way for me, and the trip involves driving into the heart of the U.K.’s busiest city from nearby Reading. But it’s not so far that I couldn’t check this out for myself, just in case I’ve been totally wrong about EV charging this whole time.

And yes, for those that didn’t know, Shell the oil company is also in the EV charging business. So is BP, which is all really weird to think about.

According to Shell the Fulham hub uses 100% renewable energy, with on-site solar panels contributing around a quarter of its needs.

It was a very painless experience, only really hampered by the fact the price was so high. £0.49 ($0.66). I’m used to rapid chargers being more expensive, but Shell Recharge is the most expensive I’ve ever seen. Back home a rapid charger will cost me £0.30 to £0.35 ($0.40 to $0.47) per kWh, depending on which company’s chargers I’m using. It’s not just London-centric inflation, either, since that is an all-too real problem in the English capital.

According to ZapMap, which lists the vast majority of available chargers, nearby rapid chargers were charging no more than £0.39 ($0.52) per kWh.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: charge; dev; displacedemissions; electionvehicle; electricvehicle; ev; expensive; impractical; inconvenient
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To: brianl703

Never used it except for main feeds, period.


221 posted on 01/30/2022 6:47:16 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: TexasGator

Actually, there are a number of courtesy chargers within a couple of miles.

The Hy-Vee flagship grocery near me has maybe half-dozen charging stations, and the c-store at the end of the parking area has a few more. Never seen more than 3 in use.

Easy to blow an hour there. Wahlburgers and Starbucks, as well as deli seating.


222 posted on 01/30/2022 6:48:13 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I had 32 gas stations within 3 miles according to Gas Buddy and no EV stations in 100 miles according to PlugShare.


223 posted on 01/30/2022 6:49:21 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I take that back. PlugShare slowly populated charge stations. It looks like 3 EV chargers in 5 miles.


224 posted on 01/30/2022 6:51:22 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: gitmo
Booty-Gig is gonna give every battery car owner one:


225 posted on 01/30/2022 6:54:31 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: gitmo

“no EV stations in 100 miles according to PlugShare.”

According to Plugshare there is NO spot in NC more than 10 miles from an EV station.


226 posted on 01/30/2022 7:26:32 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: gitmo

“I had 32 gas stations within 3 miles according to Gas Buddy “

Really? That is a station every half mile!


227 posted on 01/30/2022 7:43:07 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Good point.

But what if a large group of people are evacuating from a Hurricane and they’re not ‘home’ with their extension cord?

(I live in Florida)


228 posted on 01/30/2022 7:43:29 PM PST by GOPJ (Say "NO" - - - - - - NO COMMIES OF ANY COLOR ON THE SUPREME COURT)
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To: gitmo

“I had 32 gas stations within 3 miles according to Gas Buddy”

Not even in Raleigh.


229 posted on 01/30/2022 7:48:55 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: TexasGator

“We pass a damn gas station every hundred yards for a thousand miles, but when you really need one, you end up walking your ass off. This is no way to run a desert!” - Clark Griswold.


230 posted on 01/30/2022 7:49:39 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Gaffer

And, as I said previously, EVERY house in this area, if not the entire state of Virginia, built since the mid 60s uses aluminum for everything larger than a 30 amp circuit, and I’ve even seen some that used it for 30 amp water heater and dryer circuits.


231 posted on 01/30/2022 8:01:25 PM PST by brianl703
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To: Gaffer

Well, maybe not every house, but the vast, vast majority of them.


232 posted on 01/30/2022 8:02:14 PM PST by brianl703
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To: Samurai_Jack

“Those batteries are only good for like 10 years before you have to put $20,000USD into a new set.”

absolutely false on both accounts.

At 12k miles per year the Tesla battery will still have over 90% capacity.

Usually they can be refurbished for much less than $20k.


233 posted on 01/30/2022 8:03:07 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: dfwgator

““We pass a damn gas station every hundred yards for a thousand miles, but when you really need one, you end up walking your ass off. This is no way to run a desert!” - Clark Griswold.”

Happened to me in New Mexico on a Sunday afternoon November 1974.


234 posted on 01/30/2022 8:05:19 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: mass55th

Who has this kind of time to waste hanging around waiting on the battery to charge? Also the cost of electricity is very high and will only cost more. A gas car is cheaper. One reason why the politicians are raising gas taxes just like electric rates to force you into their solar/wind dreams and the ability to shutdown your car and home use of electricity. Control control control.

How long does it take to charge an electric car? What you need to know
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/how-long-does-it-take-to-charge-an-electric-car-what-you-need-to-know

Those that pay the high cost to get a higher charge connection at home just blew all their savings over a gas car plus battery fires are a constant threat to burning your home down and you. While driving you can have a fire that is too rapid to escape from or in an accident you can have the batteries flinging at high speed at others.


235 posted on 01/30/2022 8:11:45 PM PST by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: 2nd amendment mama

It’s a very infamous FR troll, now trolling on unicorn fart threads.


236 posted on 01/30/2022 8:21:23 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: minnesota_bound

Exactly. You make some excellent points. Call me old-fashioned, but they’ll have to pry the steering wheel of my gas driven car, out of my cold dead hands.


237 posted on 01/30/2022 8:22:47 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: TexasGator

I have 32 stations within 3 miles on Long Island.


238 posted on 01/30/2022 8:23:07 PM PST by CraigEsq
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To: TexasGator

Then in 2030 they discovered Nicoli Teslas’s hidden eqns proving the EV charging from solar panels or windfarms actaully drained the Sun of 100x more power than was being absorbed by the panels, resulting in a premature burnout of the Sun as we knew her. <;^0


239 posted on 01/30/2022 8:35:20 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: CraigEsq

“I have 32 stations within 3 miles on Long Island.”

Same with EV stations


240 posted on 01/30/2022 8:42:13 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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