Drag a 2 gauge extension cord a quarter mile long out to your bricked EV.
Or carry a 2 gallon gas can...
I've been in places where you'd be dead with a bricked battery barge.
Posted on 01/21/2022 1:10:37 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT
BY ALEX LAUER @ALEXLAUER After a winter storm left hundreds of motorists stranded on Interstate 95 in Virginia earlier this month, many for over 24 hours, we were left with plenty of questions. What went wrong on a governmental level that led to this? How could similar traffic shutdowns be avoided in the future? What should we be carrying in our cars in case of an emergency like this?
The most perplexing question of the bunch was a hypothetical one: what would have happened if all of these cars — stuck on icy roads in the snow in temperatures that dropped down to the teens — were electric? Well, it was posed as a hypothetical question, but most of the people who asked it perceived it as a rhetorical one; the implication was that if I-95 was full of EVs, the outcome would have been a catastrophe of dead batteries, stalled vehicles and frozen occupants.
It’s easy to make an argument against electric cars in extreme cases like these, partially because the technology is so new and thus easily misunderstood, and partially because, as we have previously discussed, EVs do indeed fare worse in freezing temperatures than in warmer weather (as do internal combustion engine cars). But to see whether there was an argument to be made in defense of our supposed electrified future, I did something a little more difficult: I idled in an electric car for 12 hours to see what would happen.
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Drag a 2 gauge extension cord a quarter mile long out to your bricked EV.
Or carry a 2 gallon gas can...
I've been in places where you'd be dead with a bricked battery barge.
It depends on how you measure "efficiency". You may be able to generate a greater brake specific horsepower in colder temperatures, but that does not translate to increased fuel economy during normal over the road operating conditions. Since cold air is more dense, there is a larger quantity of oxygen molecules being drawn through then engine at a give engine RPM. That requires additional fuel to be injected to achieve a stoichiometric fuel air ratio. That same dense air produces greater wind resistance as well. Also, in cold weather, engines typically spend a significantly greater percentage of their operating time below normal operating temperature which also increases fuel consumption due to friction loses from cold, thick oil as well as the extra fuel injected by the ECU to prevent misfires and heat the catalytic converters more quickly.
When your battery gets cold it loses half of its available charge.
I think the joke was that every hybrid that ever caught fire was published on Free Republic. They burn hot and violently.
That is not a Mustang.
I knew a guy who burned his snowmobile to make it through the night when he got stuck way out. He said it was a junker anyway.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Funny stuff...I've got 2 vehicles, both over 20 years old, which are well maintained, run perfectly and look near new. And the EV people are already having to purchase new vehicles?
lol...
Why didn’t he sit outside for 24 hours and what do you do with a car that is 5-10 yrs old?
The generation of power to the charger, increased emissions and supply issues at the generation and driving around on an electrical hazard.
I think about that every time I drive by that stand of pines on the curve that got toasted by the Tesla "people BBQ".
They didn't make it.
Nice test. Considering that batteries tend to have non linear behavior, I’d be interested in seening the charge run down even lower.
So what is the source of heat when you “Idle” an electric car? A heating element?
That was my first thought as well. I always thought that batteries neither charge nor discharge in a linear fashion, even if the load doesn’t change, but...that was just a gut impression. Never thought to check it out.
“lithium mining is going to be the daggr”
Nearly all of not all EV companies are moving to solid state batteries by 2023-2025 that do not use lithium and are 100% recyclable and fast charging
House fire on Hermosa Way in Menlo Park [CA] on Monday evening, by Linda Hubbard, January 4, 2022
“And the EV people are already having to purchase new vehicles?
lol...”
EVs are bought for status not economy. There are some 500k mile Teslas out there on the roads.
I’m not an EV interested person myself but they are useful in urban areas. I’ve noticed everyone I know who has one also has an ICE car. Kind of like solar, you need a backup.
EVs use heat pumps to heat and ac
The voltage usually remains high for a long while and then falls off rapidly. If you’ve ever run a battery down starting a car youd notice that the starter cranks pretty hard for quite a while and then quickly goes flat.
“precondition the car while it was still plugged into the wall, which is standard practice for EVs. Basically, you want to warm up the battery and the car interior while you’re drawing power from the electrical grid instead of the car’s own battery.”
Something they don’t like to talk about. Ev’s use power when they are just sitting at home. If you don’t keep them connected then the battery will drain and then freeze.
Not like with a Gas vehicle that can sit your drive way for a couple of months and just start right up and go. Not everyone has a garage to park their EV in either. It must be a ton of fun plowing or using your snow blower with EV extension cords running all over the place.
And this test takes place with a fully charged car with brand new batteries. Not very idealistic.
Age is not much a factor with Gas cars.
Just goes to show ya stupid people spend lots of money to impress the neighbors. I'm just not impressed.☺
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