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WORLDOMETER COVID-19 Deaths in USA 1/19/2022: 2,368 with 698,619 new cases
Worldometer ^ | January 19, 2022

Posted on 01/19/2022 6:32:19 PM PST by MinorityRepublican



TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: covid19; covidobsession; getalife
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1 posted on 01/19/2022 6:32:19 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

This looks like a death downtick from last week. Maybe 3-4% with Tennessee not reporting (and it did last week).

If there is descent, too soon to measure slope for sure, but at 3.5% it doesn’t look steep. These are really high death counts to be extending so many months.


2 posted on 01/19/2022 6:41:49 PM PST by Owen
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To: MinorityRepublican

The US case counts are meaningless now. People have at home tests and people with Omicron don’t even waste at athome test on that... they just assume they Omicron.

Cases could be 4X-5X the “official” number.

Last Time Deaths were 2,000/day (Sept 2021) Cases were only 170K/day.

Assume 1/2 of January 2022 are “official”, Omicron is 1/10 as deadly as Delta.

When Brandon sends everyone Kits, official cases will drop like a rock. Even the Democrats are through with the pandemic... The rank and file Democrats just don’t know it, yet.


3 posted on 01/19/2022 6:47:30 PM PST by UNGN
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To: Owen

2 million people die every year in USA.
That is 5500 people every day.

What that means is 5500 people are ripe to die every day.

Even a mild attack of covid is enough to hasten the death by a few weeks/months. But is that really a covid death or is it a death in waiting speeded up by a few weeks?


4 posted on 01/19/2022 7:12:24 PM PST by entropy12
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To: Owen

Only because you believe the hype. The sane people know its fake. They told you its fake for a min of 3 times in press conferences.


5 posted on 01/19/2022 7:20:10 PM PST by roving
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To: MinorityRepublican

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/new-research-suggests-covid-was-less-deadly-thought-first-year-pandemic


6 posted on 01/19/2022 7:26:31 PM PST by roving
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To: entropy12

>>2 million people die every year in USA.
That is 5500 people every day.
>>

About 1.7 million of them are elderly. New replacements in the 65+ population arrive each day.

With a normal death count per year of 1.7M, and you add 450K to them, you get an increase of 26% over normal death totals.

Oldsters can’t be happy with that.

As for a few weeks, the life expectancy of a 75 year old in the US is 12.2 years. The overall expected age at death rises with age, of course. Whereas 77 is the overall life expectancy of a newborn, it is 87 for a 75 yr old, because that guy already dodged a lot of early killers.

So no, it’s not just a few weeks.


7 posted on 01/19/2022 7:30:34 PM PST by Owen
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To: entropy12
2 million people die every year in USA

3,383,729 in 2020. 2,854,858 in the year before that.

8 posted on 01/19/2022 7:33:21 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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-— “3,383,729 in 2020. 2,854,858 in the year before that.”

Thanks for the URL links to the CDC’s “official” numbers. Obviously you accept them, and so probably accept the whole WHO-Fauci-Collins taxonomy and data collection.

Johns Hopkins University's “official” data — ( 5,547,903 “global deaths” / 7,921,131,915 global population ) x 100 = 0.070% of the global population.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

5,583,850 worldwide for a similar data report to JHU.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

If other "official" data suggest a worldwide ratio Covid deaths against population then the CDC is complicit is the worst "pandemic" response of any nation in the world, indicting the CDC, NIH and FDA as failing spectacularly.

The US ratio, representing that "official" CDC pandemic response stands at about 0.251 %, in comparison to the world's "official" 0.070%.

Some would conclude that the CDC is not to be trusted, as you faithfully trust and pass on their "fine" work to us.

9 posted on 01/19/2022 9:42:36 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: UNGN

Maybe your neck of the woods is different from mine: In mine, while case surges get plenty of reporting early on, it’s the hospitalizations that really drive the reporting when they go high.


10 posted on 01/19/2022 10:58:00 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

CDC is not a monolith. In fact it is wracked with internal division and “office politics”, and disorganization. Inability to get rid of bad employees is a huge albatross, also.

So... CDC is possibly the worst agency in the gov’t, taken as a whole, but that said, pieces of it are halfway competent if time and efficiency are not part of the qualification. It’s data collection falls in that latter category. OTOH, it’s education / mitigation campaign on COVID via US media is possibly the most incompetent such effort I have ever witnessed.


11 posted on 01/19/2022 11:13:57 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Looks like the new cases curve has peaked. It will be more obvious in another week, but that’s what it looks like. The death curve compared to last year at this time is very interesting. You get a broad spike beginning in October with ‘Delta’ and then a narrow spike of equal height in January with ‘Omicron’. In between there is a sag. I think the winter outbreak is receding fast.


12 posted on 01/20/2022 3:45:51 AM PST by Tallguy
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Hospitalizations with Covid are probably 4X higher now, because Omicron is more transmissible, everyone in the hospital with a broken leg gets Covid.

“On supplemental O2 / ventilator” should be THE ONLY Hospital metric reported.

If they aren’t reporting this, they are lying to you.


13 posted on 01/20/2022 4:01:55 AM PST by UNGN
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To: Paul R.
-— “ CDC is possibly the worst agency in the gov’t, taken as a whole, but that said, pieces of it are halfway competent if time and efficiency are not part of the qualification. It's data collection falls in that latter category.”

Dear sir, given your view that the CDC is “wracked with internal division” and "office politics” and “disorganization,” as well as being “possibly the worst agency in the gov’t,” your assertion that its data collection is “halfway competent” is damning with faint praise.

Nonetheless, my point is that the worldometer data and visualization — not the CDC per se — suggest that the worldwide “pandemic” is of far less significance medically than the media hysteria and authoritarian political responses to it warranted.

As a follow on to that worldwide "official" data from "official" sources, the comparison the the US data more than suggests that the US' response has been pathetic, if its data is correct.

How pathetic? Over three and a half times more deadly and inept that the world's average response, which includes ALL the third world.

The CDC, NIH and FDA have led that demonstrably pathetic response, with Fauci and Collins and Walensky at the helm.

To assert that its "data collection falls in that latter category," that is, "halfway competent" is fuel for skepticism.

That "halfway competent" but "worst agency in the gov’t" has bred an "over three and a half times more deadly" and inept medical response than any other in the world.

Worst in the world.

14 posted on 01/20/2022 5:34:33 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Some would conclude Americans are the most bullheaded people in the world...*

We are also fatter and older than most of the world, with arguably poorer natural immunities to begin with.

*What I mean is, first, China’s numbers are almost certainly a farce: They should not even be included in the “rest of the world” data. That’s a big hunk of the denominator removed.

But, China’s data veracity aside, most of the world handled COVID so differently from the US and parts of the West, in ways unacceptable to most Americans (particularly the almost unbelievably Orwellian, intense surveillance and tracking of populations in places like China or even South Korea), that comparisons such as you make are just flat out irrelevant, unless one is trying to argue that unacceptable policies should be forced on us. I am not trying to be “mean” in saying that, it’s just the straight up truth.

As for CDC, first, it is not a monolith. The data side of it is slow and inefficient and generally “too low” (see flu seasons of the last decade, “in progress” seasonal reports vs. “final” reports once all the death certificates have been reviewed), but they usually seem to eventually be in the ballpark, and I know of no credible serious (as in off by a factor of 4 or something like that) challenges to what they finally determine in the way of fatalities.

OTOH, most of the rest of CDC is a mess. It’s program of public education via the media throughout COVID has been utterly incompetent and likely counterproductive.


15 posted on 01/20/2022 12:45:34 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: UNGN

To clarify, I’m not looking at COVID hospitalizations so much as total hospitalizations. Here locally they are high but still manageable. Oklahoma City seems to have gone beyond that, according to the hospitals themselves.


16 posted on 01/20/2022 12:56:29 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

No, you still make an all too typical mistake. Obviously you’ve never been in an organization, say, a business, in a position such that you can see it has pieces operating at different competencies. It is quite common. Probably the norm, actually.

If you can’t accept that, tell you what. Canvass several large churches and see what you come back with for fatalities data, vs. CDC data for your area.


17 posted on 01/20/2022 1:12:22 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: UNGN

That assumes all COVID complications are caused by low O2, which is not the case.

I do agree “with COVID” is an improper metric.

I believe that if looking at “COVID hospitalizations”, the metric should be “COVID as a significant contributing factor to admission”. VERY often, and this has not really changed, admissions are due to combinations of factors. I saw it repeatedly with both my Mom and my Dad.

Regardless, the bottom line is whether or not a hospital has proper care capacity for additional incoming patients, and if not, is such care nearby.


18 posted on 01/20/2022 1:29:32 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.
---- :Canvass several large churches and see what you come back with for fatalities data, vs. CDC data for your area."

I have. Thank you. My experiences and those of my circle in the US and Europe show nothing like the "panic."

But irrespective of your assertion (which was wrong), the fact remains:

Johns Hopkins University's "official" data -- ( 5,547,903 "global deaths" / 7,921,131,915 global population ) x 100 = 0.070% of the global population.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

5,583,850 worldwide for a similar data report to JHU.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

19 posted on 01/20/2022 1:30:26 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: Paul R.
What an amusing response.

The "most of the rest of CDC is a mess" and the messaging is "utterly incompetent and likely counterproductive." But you trust the "data side."

That is clearly your conlcusion. Oddly not everyone shares your conclusion.

20 posted on 01/20/2022 1:40:44 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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