Posted on 01/09/2022 12:07:43 PM PST by griffin
"The new rules seem to have hit a snag because no one at the Bureau considered the number of unfinished frames and receivers sitting in stores’ inventory. Now the ATF will be reaching out to licensed firearms dealers (FFLs) to see how many kits are currently for sale. The ATF is asking the dealers how long it would take to serialize those kits and what the FFL’s plan to do with the kits if a rule went into effect that would require serialization."
(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...
I still see frames for sale through the internet. I'd only buy one now-a-days with cash, in-person.
I guess this is because the founders did not define “shall not be infringed” in the Constitution........./s
It’s buy a gun week in America. Buy American made products. American made guns and ammo.
The infringing won’t end until it’s forced to end.
I wonder if this will be retroactive?
Asking for a friend.
From my late night reading it appears that everyone will be required to bring in their PMF to a FFL to get serialized, whether it’s a purchased 80% or something completely fabricated from raw materials.
100%. See bump stock ruling.
Yes, that is what it looks like and where the snag is. The simple cure even though we do not want it, is do like they have done before with most guns laws and auto safety laws. “New ones from his date forward are required”. Everything prior is grandfathered. But in their insane radical extremism and appetite they ask for more than would be practical. They want that power of outlawing retroactively. They will use the heck out of that “in illegal possession” even though it was completely legal when it was acquired. It opens the door to sieze all your other completely legal firearms too. It is a trap...
And because it’s undocumented the DOM or receiver purchase for any particular receiver/frame is impossible to prove.
The funny thing is they sent the letters to FFLs inquiring about unfinished frames. But since they are not firearms, they can be sold by anyone so their can be hundreds of thousands floating around elsewhere.
Yep, absolutely.
Indeed, they despise that sentence in the constitution that prohibits ex post facto laws.
—added “banglist” as keyword—
I mean, the first thing that comes to mind in the 80% parts. But really this can apply to an aluminum block with slide grooves in either side, for a 1911 or 2011 model.
The squishy term ‘readily’ is cooked up by ATF to cover whatever they want. It's definition is the definition of ambiguity.
See now that is what it is supposed to mean, but I found out the courts have now twisted it and perverted it away from that original meaning. Ex post facto no longer means ex post facto. Our founders should not have used Latin or more would understand what it is truly supposed to mean.
Thanks, Mon!
If they’re going to regulate X (intent: into oblivion), they must precisely articulate what constitutes an X. There will always be someone to build and sell something that is almost, but not quite, X.
Pushing the regulations to the edge of raw materials pushes the technology to other solutions. CNC and 3D Printing machines are widely available: insert raw material, load program (protected as free speech), press Go, get prohibited product.
ATF need realize this does not end well for them.
“The squishy term ‘readily’ is cooked up by ATF to cover whatever they want”
Old aphorism: a competent and minimally equipped gunsmith can turn a VW Bug into a machine gun in 8 hours.
Totally agree. Or....
Have courts like that portrayed in the movie Idiocracy which will make/adapt the law and nail you for anything.
I’d buy one!
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