Posted on 01/09/2022 9:39:13 AM PST by Enlightened1
The CDC Director Rochelle Walensky on Good Morning America said 75% of the covid deaths had 4 or more co-morbidities. (See at GAB link below 22 second video).
https://gab.com/Footdoc/posts/107592967967454793
Seems like the Administration is hedging their bets. Why all of a sudden are they admitting what was considered "conspiracy theory" not too long ago?
Although for people who checked the CDC website could see the CDC has admitted that only 5% of the Covid deaths 800k are from Covid 19 alone. On avearge of the remaining 95% had co-morbidities. This is as recent as Jan 2nd, 2022.
"For over 5% of these deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned on the death certificate. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 4.0 additional conditions or causes per death. For data on deaths involving COVID-19 by time-period, jurisdiction, and other health conditions,"
I wonder how many of the 5% were killed by the NIH/CDC protocal of puttting patients on the experimetal Remdesvire? If you are on Remdesvire there is a very strong chance that your kidneys will fail, and that's when you go on the ventilator. Most people do not make it out once on the ventilator.
Here is the link. Scroll down to,
"Comorbidities and other conditions"
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities
With covid not from covid. But then we knew that already.
Bingo. Until Lester Holt, and David Muir start saying that the myth will continue...
From that great philosopher Steven Stills, Buffalo Springfield song “ for what its worth”
Somewhat fitting for todays Covid fearing society.
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
The man in this case is the CDC , Joey, et al....
Obesity was the #6 comorbidity among Covid deaths.
I listed it above. Dementia was #1, because, simply, the virus kills the old. This obsession with comorbidities is young folk wanting to delude themselves that they have some control over things.
The old get comorbidities, fat or thin. The virus kills the old. The comorbidities are just along for the ride.
Don’t ruin it! I find it amusing how this guy is always so exasperated with other people supposedly not understanding things when he shows zero ability to comprehend anything himself. He’s like our very own Wolf Blitzer on Jeopardy.
Most of this is from memory, it’s been six months since I read the piece: (1) Cancer in your background, (2) chronic kidney/liver disease, (3) Lung issues (COPD, asthma, etc), (4) diabetes, (5) Dementia and Alzheimer’s, (6) heart disease, (7) weakened immune system, (8) anxiety/panic attacks, and (9) obesity. If I remember the article correctly...two of these conditions was an automatic qualifier to get you a quick ticket from the doctor to enter the hospital.
On the anxiety/panic attacks...I suspect this goes to severe coughing attacks where the anxiety contributes more stress on the body to handle the coughs.
Some of these, if you live a good healthy lifestyle...you won’t have these in your ‘deck of cards’. When you find a 80 or 90 year old person who survives...it’s a pretty sure bet they don’t have a single co-morbidity.
FWIW, I don’t believe this stat, either.
I think this is another modified limited hangout.
It didn’t help that the government locked everything down and told people to stay home.
“Diabetes. There is a presumption out there that old people won’t get diabetes if they are not fat. Wrong. You will find that age is more determinant than weight.”
From the CDC: “If you have diabetes, your body either doesn’t make enough insulin or can’t use the insulin it makes as well as it should. When there isn’t enough insulin or cells stop responding to insulin, too much blood sugar stays in your bloodstream.”
Diabetes is not normally caused by our bodies producing too little insulin, but by our bodies no longer responding correctly to insulin. That is caused primarily by eating too much starch too frequently, causing spikes in blood sugar and thus insulin until, over time, our bodies become immune to it.
“The prevalence of diabetes mellitus increases with age; it occurs in approximately 10 percent of Americans 60 years of age and in 16 to 20 percent of those 80 years old....and it is estimated that an additional 20 percent of the elderly population has age-associated hyperglycemia, which may be part of a spectrum between normality and type II diabetes....Thus, 40 percent of our senior population has abnormal carbohydrate tolerance and is at risk for diabetic-type chronic complications.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3518443/
That is not a factor of age but of bad eating patterns. Eat bad enough long enough and it WILL affect you. But we can CHOOSE to eat well.....
Hyertension? What is it? Are you using the new American standards, the old ones, the European standards? The new standards are STUPID and violating the new standards will not cause increased risk with COVID. Systolic blood pressure of 140 isn’t dangerous unless it is caused by gunked up arteries. But the government makes no attempt to figure out WHY someone has blood pressure because their simplistic studies only track populations, not cause/effect.
“Hypertension just happens with age. It doesn’t need obesity to happen. Age is what does it.”
Small increases with age are normal even if healthy, but the statistics of risk always include those whose blood pressure when way up due to bad health habits - smoking, drinking, obesity, etc.
“Blood Pressure: How High is Too High and How Do I Lower it Safely?”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j314amPw4RQ
Here is how your world works:
An 82 yr old guy just got back from a trip to the Grand Canyon to see sights. He started having problems breathing. Checked into the hospital.
His records show he is on blood pressure meds, and last year he had prostate biopsy that said there is cancer there. The Gleason score suggested watchful waiting with a PSA of 5 and not changing.
His blood oxygen level erodes. It gets lower and lower. He’s on supplemental oxygen but the level fades. Ventilator considered and refused. And he dies.
In your world, he died with Covid and because, and only because, you don’t like the numbers rising you declare he had cancer, mark him down as cancer!!! Not a virus death!! It’s just a headcold.
It’s hard to deal with delusion.
Currently, the USA is the only country in the world reporting the majority of covid deaths and injuries are from the unvaccinated. This fact is not reported and is buried by ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, FOX news media both local and national, both over the air and online. In every other country on the planet, the majority of hospital deaths are vaccinated individuals.
According to Scott Davison, CEO of Indianapolis based insurance company One America, the death rate of individuals in the 18 to 64 age range in Indiana is up %40 from prepandemic levels among working age individuals. www.thecentersquare.com/indiana/indiana-life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-are-up-40-among-people-ages-18-64/article_71473b12-6b1e-11ec-8641-5b2c06725e2c.html
How many other states have similar numbers that are suppressed to prevent public questions and realization?
American hospital reports follow CDC guidelines which require purposefully falsifying the data with regard to vaccination status. The gaps between being counted as vaccinated and unvaccinated are large enough to drive a truck through.
Here is an example of the twisted logic of the CDC: It's funny how they count the numbers:
>Get vaxxed and die the next day
>Counted as unvaxxed
>Get vaxxed a 2nd time and die 14 days later
>Counted as unvaxxed
>Get vaxxed a 2nd time and then get sick between 15 and 90 days
>YOURE FINALLY COUNTED AS VACCINATED!
>Get double-vaxxed and then get sick after 90 days
>Get counted as unvaxxed
>Get a booster and die the next day
>Get counted as unvaxxed
>Get a booster and then get sick 15 to 90 days later
>YOURE COUNTED AS VAXXED AGAIN CONGRATULATIONS!
Get your 3rd shot and then get sick 91 days later
>Get counted as unvaxxed
The news media are doing irreparable harm to the general public and will be held accountable when the death rate rises high enough for the general public to realize they have been deceived and lied to.
Three year old girls dies of heart attack one day after taking the vaccine www.lifesitenews.com/news/3-year-old-girl-dies-of-heart-attack-one-day-after-covid-vaccine/
A Lifesite News writer, Robert L Kinney III proves that an effort to tweak and manipulate federal regulations started years ago with the sole purpose of legalizing the falsification of data and driving public fear.
A 2019 federal law may have authorized fake COVID-19 statistics, data - www.lifesitenews.com/author/robert-l-kinney-iii/
Dr Robert Malone, architect of the mRNA technology is pleading with parents to not allow their children to be vaccinated. thecovidworld.com/before-your-child-is-injected-watch-dr-robert-malones-statement-on-child-covid-vaccinations/
It is just a matter of time until there are enough deaths for the public to realize that bad people are doing bad things to hurt them.
There will be an accounting of everyone and their role in this human disaster. Hopefully, we can count on you to stand for humanity and the lives of innocent children.
Encouraging the public to put themselves in harms way and take an experimental deadly vaccination is a criminal act and the perpetrators will be brought to justice.
One notices among Owen's assertions the following, "Multiple comorbidities helps Covid kill."
Notice the construction and rejig the language.
"Multiple other things that kill" help[s] Covid kill."
This was the aim of the April 2020 WHO advice for coding FOR covid as a death diagnosis when in the presence of other deadly, and perhaps more deadly issues.
Prefer "Covid" as diagnosis above others.
Or in Owen's post this day: "Multiple comorbidities helps Covid kill."
That's how to generate a diagnosis. That's how the comical diagnoses we have seen -- gun shot wounds, traffic accidents and the like -- have been generated.
I have personally seen a long death by renal failure in which Covid, found on the day before death, "labeled 'died with' for the cash payout." As I was personally involved, I asked and never received the "official" result of said test -- which it was, was the scoring was *how many cycles and such), or even which lab made the report. Stonewalled for data officially.
I and the remainder of the family made such a fuss that the death certificate ended up reading "renal failure." That was therefore an "official" WITH and not Owen's preference. one imagines.
That’s good data on diabetes, but you are dancing around the text the correlated to age.
But mostly I thumbs up your issue of the new year 2017 hypertension standards. There is a bit of a fight between some official cardiology organization and an official family practice organization. The 140 systolic number is the battlefield for the fight. The cardiologists want thiazides forced onto people to get them below 120 systolic. The family practice people say this is flat out dangerous in the elderly because of dizziness and falls.
The study showed the vast majority of longevity benefit was lowering systolic from 180 or 170 or whatever down to 140. Below 140 there was still statistically significant benefit, but it was marginal. The family practice people yell about that. Risking falls to increase longevity a couple of days.
Total BS. The CDC has done nothing lie this entire time.
Everyone agreed in principle - but then the Fauci fear-mongers went ahead and bloated the mortality stats by incentivizing hospitals to including deaths with co-morbidities as Covid deaths.
So, while you are right that everyone knew about the co-morbidities and there were no official denials - we are still left with a completely false death stat that is widely accepted as fact.
If the CDC or any other official reporting source was sincerely interested in reporting the truth, they wouldn’t mince words with % co-morbidities - they would simply announce that the nearly 1m Covid deaths reported for the USA is utter horse shit, and report a more correct estimate at 5% of that - under 50k.
Along with profuse apologies for a two-year deception that has crushed our economy and contributed to the theft of a crucial presidential election.
This fake pandemic has cost the MAGA movement dearly, and the MAGA movement was our last best hope of saving the Republic.
So Russia let the US policies about this matter define their counts? That’s your position? Ditto every other country of the world posting big deathcount numbers.
They are dead because the virus killed them. It killed them mostly because they were old. The old have comorbidities.
Those three sentences are in order of importance.
And she’s really happy about a lot of people dying whether it’s from covid or not.
That's it in a nutshell.
Well, we agree on hypertension at least. ;>)
Diabetes with age, based on personal observation of friends (mostly 65-80)....the ones getting diabetes are also the ones EATING like future diabetics. Lots of sugar and simple carbs, lots of highly processed foods. I can go to a church pot luck and it is OBVIOUS why soo many old people have diabetes, and it isn’t age. The number of grossly fat old folks at a church pot luck borders on terrifying.
I don’t know any reasonably lean old people who came down with diabetes.
I do realize that one can have a small tummy and become diabetic, but the vast majority of Type 2 diabetes is curable:
“Reversing Diabetes with Dr. Bhakti Paul”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3suCjlPfkgw
“Dr William Yancy - ‘Carbohydrate Restriction for Diabetes: Clinical Trials, Experience & Guidelines’”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cgHWggA508
And do we try to control all the population to help delay death for the very old (who I will join, God willing, in a decade or so)? Should society as a whole fear something that bumps off someone who is about to die anyways?
Nobody was speaking to you. Do you know why so few people do? Because we all figure you must be about two feet tall with how even simple points go right over your head.
This ‘world’ that I live in sounds really interesting. I’d accuse you of making a staw man argument, but honestly, you’d be benched in the pee wee league of any kind of arguing, so I doubt you even know you’re doing it.
I know you won’t understand this, but maybe someone else who is able to will be reading this response and it will help them: the woman said FOUR comorbidities. Not one. Not two. Not three. Yes, when you get old, you get comorbidities. Deep stuff. However, even in your supposed example of ‘my world’, the person had TWO comorbidities. Nearly all old people will have one. A large number will have two. Three, we’re getting into the territory of a sicker person, but a fair number will have three. Four is a lot. That’s why 75% of covid deaths having FOUR comorbidities is a very interesting statistic. Here’s one that will blow your tiny mind: it is very likely that very close to 100% of all covid deaths had at least one. Touting that as some kind of relevant statistic would be silly and if you were ranting about people not understanding that, it would be warranted. But you’re not, because you weren’t able to understand what was being said.
So, this whole point that you think is so important to make? It’s irrelevant to the discussion. Now go away. Nobody wants to bother using the two IQ points it would take to have a battle of wits with you.
I look at that .32cal as a “good luck charm”.
<(;^O)~
I sincerely hope that could happen, but the political class can’t allow it. The politicians on both sides of the aisle have been protected for a long time by the collaboration of the news media. When the SHTF they (the Congress Critters) will go “all in” to protect their cronies.
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