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Are the vaccinated harming their immune systems?
American Thinker ^ | 1/9/22 | James T Moodey

Posted on 01/09/2022 6:48:44 AM PST by week 71

Here is some number-crunching. Using natural immunity as a base and the fully vaccinated to mean two mRNA shots, we can conclude the following:

An unassailable stat from the Israelis, which made Fauci change his guidance from "if you are fully vaccinated, you will not catch it" to "if you are fully vaccinated, you can still catch it and spread it," was that the fully vaccinated in Israel were 6–13 times more likely to catch the D variant than the naturally immune population.

And the first decent-sized sample regarding omicron shows that the fully vaccinated are 2.61 times more likely to catch omicron than the D variant.

So 2.61 times 6 is 15.66.

And 2.61 times 13 is 33.93.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: americannonthinker; antivaxxcult; flunkedbiology; flunkedmath; stopthenonsense; vaccines; whypostthiscrap; yesnextquestion
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To: week 71

Speaking of insurance; https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/unprecedented-deaths-in-indiana-for

Unprecedented: Deaths in Indiana for ages 18-64 are up 40%


21 posted on 01/09/2022 7:27:39 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: allendale

If you contract a COVID 19 variant, your body is going to be inundated with a huge amount of viral RNA. It will be far more that the amount of RNA that you get from the vaccine.

That seems a dubious claim. The vaxx will instantly load the body with mRNA which finds its way to your own cells where ribosomes begin constructing spike proteins. A natural Covid infection will likely occur beginning in the nasal passages with viral replication ramping up over time. This provides the body time to mount its own defense, first with its innate immune response, then with the adaptive.


22 posted on 01/09/2022 7:28:23 AM PST by Flick Lives
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To: allendale

The average age of Covid death is higher than the average of death in the US.
No one can change their age, but they can certainly change being a fat ass.


23 posted on 01/09/2022 7:28:29 AM PST by EEGator
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To: week 71

Yes. Any more questions?


24 posted on 01/09/2022 7:29:56 AM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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To: logi_cal869

@ 3 - thanks for the link (I missed that on FR). I have been on a robust vitamin regimen and have HCQ and IVM prescribed by a doctor, which I can use if ever symptomatic. I am not too worried being in the 50 or younger crowd.

Hope my c-19 infected teenage daughter feels better today - she is still sleeping. Maybe later today I will give her chicken noodle soup (a kind of panacea for viruses).


25 posted on 01/09/2022 7:38:57 AM PST by week 71
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To: week 71

Welcome to the club ;)


26 posted on 01/09/2022 7:48:50 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Chuckling. Took two years!


27 posted on 01/09/2022 7:51:10 AM PST by week 71
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To: allendale

“If you contract a COVID 19 variant, your body is going to be inundated with a huge amount of viral RNA. It will be far more that the amount of RNA that you get from the vaccine.”

That is not true at all. Not sure where you get your information.

For onmicron, it’s largely an upper respiratory response, meaning the virus doesn’t spread throughout the body. Just the upper mucus membranes. Hich kick it’s but, and why it seems just a cold.

The vax is injected into the body, where it hijacks cells and spews out vast quantities of virus spike protein parts. They circulate throughout the body via the blood stream, landing in the heart, liver, kidneys, and BRAIN.

The vax is awful. You’ll have permanent spike proteins in your body. Forever. Cadaver studies show it’s friken everywhere.


28 posted on 01/09/2022 7:52:13 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: week 71
I'm finding it DELIGHTFULLY ironic that the people the globalists want to kill are those who refuse the vaxx, while it is lefties and low information sheeple who are the most compliant with taking the clot-shot.

If half of the ill effects and/or deaths predicted about the vaxx come true, the globalists aren't going to like the New World Order they brought about.

29 posted on 01/09/2022 7:53:06 AM PST by HandBasketHell
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To: CodeToad

@ 16 - agree. I have been seeing similar things around me.


30 posted on 01/09/2022 7:53:44 AM PST by week 71
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To: allendale
Yet there is no denying that the horrendous carnage seen in hospitals and nursing homes was largely stopped when a significant percentage of the adult population over 50 was vaccinated..

And they stopped putting sick people in nursing homes, and because the weakest had already died off and those who survived had natural immunity.

There are other explanations of death rates plummeted besides the vaxxes.

31 posted on 01/09/2022 7:56:14 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: week 71

I’m convinced that the only reason I was exposed in 3/2020 was due to my wife’s then-employer who got many out of state vendors in the building on a weekly basis. Everyone at her work seemed to be coughing illness that month. I never did know anyone personally in my sphere who got sick, totally destroying the ‘asymptomatic transmission’ myth as well.


32 posted on 01/09/2022 7:56:17 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: allendale

“...no denying...”

__________

I deny it.


33 posted on 01/09/2022 7:56:24 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Pollard

@ 21 - that news is alarming. These insurance companies must pay attention to actuarial math. Zero gain for lying about what is going on.


34 posted on 01/09/2022 7:56:33 AM PST by week 71
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Sorry but you just posted complete rot.


35 posted on 01/09/2022 7:56:36 AM PST by allendale
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To: week 71

No.

This a thoughtless speculation in the American Thinker


36 posted on 01/09/2022 7:57:25 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) California needs Zorro to destroy the neoNobility corruption)
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To: week 71

An unassailable stat from the Israelis.....was that the fully vaccinated in Israel were 6–13 times more likely to catch the D variant than the naturally immune population.
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Would have been nice if the American Thinker article actually linked to the Israeli data....


37 posted on 01/09/2022 7:57:38 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: week 71

My mom always referred to chicken soup as Jewish penicillin.

I always liked it when I was sick.


38 posted on 01/09/2022 8:07:00 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: week 71

For the love of sweet baby Jesus, people....stop getting Covid tested if you have no symptoms. I know many of you are forced into being tested, but stop with the volunteering. You want to be sent off to a camp? You want to be isolated for two weeks? You want your children taken away from you? Yeah? Well, go ahead and risk a false positive....and make no mistake, false positives happen all the time. False positives can ruin your lives, your businesses, and your income. Not to mention your sanity. But, of course, you know best.


39 posted on 01/09/2022 8:08:58 AM PST by Scooter100
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To: metmom

Yep there is still much not understood about this COVID 19 pandemic. For instance what is the genetic reason some when exposed never become infect, others become infected but recover, why do some become infected and die? Sounds like simplistic questions but the answers would be very instructive. Its also obvious that while IMHO the vaccines have been a huge benefit to many, COVID 19 will not be defeated as was polio, small pox or even measles with vaccines. It will naturally come to an end when a less virulent highly communicable variant (possibly omicron) goes through the population, renders immunity and the more virulent variants die out for a lack of hosts.


40 posted on 01/09/2022 8:10:03 AM PST by allendale
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