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WORLDOMETER COVID-19 Deaths in USA 1/5/2022: 1,802 with 704,661 new cases
Worldometer ^ | January 5, 2022

Posted on 01/05/2022 6:45:30 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Places with highest daily reported cases per capita

Seven-day average of daily new reported cases per 100,000 residents


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To: Owen
Someone has to track down what policy change happened a few months ago.

It's not a secret. Florida doesn't report a COVID death until they have a death certificate from an ME. Then, they report the deaths to the CDC for the date the death occurred, usually about 3 weeks but sometimes as long as 8 weeks after the death. Because of this, the deaths for "today" are almost always zero. Today's deaths won't be reported for 2-5 weeks. Check back in 4 weeks and I guarantee you it won't be single digits.

Here's an explanation:

There’s No Mystery in Florida’s Covid Reporting

FL was hit pretty hard by Delta and has a pretty high vaccination rate, and I think that will make Omicron a bit easier for them. The large elderly population, one that increases in winter, won't help.

21 posted on 01/05/2022 9:18:08 PM PST by ETCM
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To: Interesting Times
Florida is second.

Wanna bet that is flipped right now? I'm sure a lot of retired Mainiacs fly south for the winter, while Florida gains hundreds of thousands of snowbirds.

22 posted on 01/05/2022 9:28:16 PM PST by ETCM
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To: Owen
PA is 2899 (better than FL)
NY is 3111 (worse than FL)
NJ is 3288 (worse than FL)
MI is 2970 (worse than FL)
MD is 1984 (much better than FL)

Not sure what case you were trying to make.


Only that you were purposely leaving out the states that are worse than Florida. PA will be worse than Florida in a week or two. Let's revisit the numbers in March, shall we?

The interesting thing about Florida is that the Federal Government is apparently limiting their access to monoclonal antibody treatments. Are they doing that to other states as well?
23 posted on 01/05/2022 9:33:15 PM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: ETCM

Excellent data. I had vaguely heard there was a significant delay, as is so on the CDC’s Excess Deaths. It takes time to get data to the tabulator.

FL’s decline from their summer peak seems overly sharp, but your data plus people going home from DisneyWorld (where proximity to people makes them more vulnerable) may have steepened the decline.

The slope of curves is important. It was why I suspected the Vax was not all that great. The slope descending from Jan 2021 Did Not Steepen, in fact, it went more shallow. That was pre Delta and with more and more Vaxed, it should have gone nearly vertical. It simply did not happen.

Anyway, excellent info.


24 posted on 01/05/2022 9:34:20 PM PST by Owen
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To: Antoninus

Heavens no. I was annoyed by single digit death numbers from such a big state. Another poster just explained it, btw.

Of course there are worse states than FL. There are also 35 better. 36 since they count DC.

NYC on the Excess Deaths charts is pretty important. They were completely smashed in the Spring 2020. Total absence of measures. Then the place emptied. They have had Excess Deaths of near zero for the 20 months since, for the older age groups particularly. I think NYC’s mayor just this week begged people to come back. Quote was this city cannot function on 30% occupancy of office buildings. He meant financiall.

It’s hard to get Covid deaths if there is no one there to breathe virus.


25 posted on 01/05/2022 9:39:45 PM PST by Owen
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To: Owen
Dude, you are way into this. Is life that boring, or what?

Do you know how many f's I give for all that malarkey you're obsessing on? Well, it's a very low number, I can assure you, but knock yourself out, covid whisperer. There's fear porn, and then there's this. Not sure if there's a name for it yet.


26 posted on 01/05/2022 10:52:29 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

I confess I do not know the number of f’s you gave it.

I also confess that I was able to sleep last night, even though I did not have that number.


27 posted on 01/05/2022 11:33:14 PM PST by Owen
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To: ETCM
Re: "Florida doesn't report a COVID death until they have a death certificate from an ME."

That is exactly the same way that the National Center for Health Statistics (CDC) reports deaths from all causes, which is the gold standard for mortality data.

NCHS receives 95% of USA death certificates, most of them digitally, within eight weeks.

The Covid fatality numbers that Johns Hopkins and Worldometer put out every day are estimates, but usually quite accurate estimates.

Bottom Line - if the word COVID appears anywhere on a death certificate, the chances are good that will be classified as a Covid death.

That is NOT how influenza deaths are calculated. Final flu deaths typically come out around September of the following year, and they are based to a great extent on statistical models.

28 posted on 01/05/2022 11:57:23 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Owen; bagster
— :I confess I do not know....”

As of 2 January 2022:

For the world:

( 5,440,715 “global deaths) / 7,917,528,778 global population ) x 100 = 0.0687%

Less than seven one-hunredths of one percent “global deaths” from Covid over two years.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

For the US....

( 825,819 “U.S. Deaths” over two years / 331,002,651 U.S. population ) x 100 = 0.249%

About 25 one-hunredths of one percent, given the rule of thumb that about one percent of a population dies off each year.

Now try out your 80-year medieval plague numerical analysis again.

29 posted on 01/06/2022 2:19:57 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: bagster
— “ There's fear porn, and then there's this. Not sure if there's a name for it yet.”

“Covid whisperer” is a fine bit of ridicule.

As to a name for this level of “fear porn,” I think “state agenda” would suffice. Given the experiment is still experimental and its manufacturers conducing the experiment are shielded from product liability law suits in the US as an “emergency,” to regularly encourage or consider a mandate to participate in an experiment is the “state agenda,” as it coincides with the state's CDC, FDA, and the Biden administration's attempts to use OSHA and the like to force participation in an EXPERIMENT.

30 posted on 01/06/2022 2:29:14 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

I had cause to spend time some years ago studying logistical impact of rattus rattus and rattus norvegicus. You would be unwise to hitch your wagon to your bizarre imagined gotcha of a handful of years.

The Yuan Dynasty was called that by Kublai Khan circa 1290ish. He then died and his son took over. Plague arrived in the 1330s. Your superficial wiki look did not lead you to what happened to the dynasty over a fifty year sequence of acute absence of farming personnel.

Plague killed society via starvation. The mechanism of starvation death is rarely a calorie deficit that creates too few such to power lungs or heart. It is much more a failed immune system that permits opportunistic infection.

Plague persisted for decades because of the synergies of food. Rattus Rattus appeared when there was food for it to eat. Killed the farmers that created it, often before any children could be taught farming.

Decades upon decades this went on in the dynasty. Its roots were the Mongol Empire. Sieges of expansion were ended as often by food lack as by the disease in the surrounding army.

The Hundred Years War persisted because of plague.

About 10 yrs ago some uncomfortable analysis unfolded concerning transportation speed of that time in both China and Europe. It led to suspicion Y. Pestis was not the agent. This ended with DNA analysis of bodies in graves, but there was never a rebuttal to the speed issue.

You have a few years of reading to do. I’ll wait.


31 posted on 01/06/2022 6:03:38 AM PST by Owen
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To: Owen
What a silly response.

Various other comments you've composed across other threads speaks volumes about the volumes of volumes you say you have read, in order to be wiser than a mere worldtraveler.

If there is any “bizarre imagined gotcha of a handful of years,” it not mine. It is ours, including you, a Doktor Allwissend.

These last two years of the pandemic — “event,” scamdemic, case-demic, and so on — is less than a handful of years. And you have so much about which to opine because you've read about black rats, which are part of our world today. Gee whiz, rats carry plague. Even today, so let's just bring your little equation across to today. Six hundred plus years of plague! Arithmeric based on assumptions and statistics and all.

Few if any will look back at this thread, so neither of us doing more than a silly back-and-forth. But to adopt a superior academic stance seems a pretense to me, as if you want “appeal to authority” to anoint you as an authority. Rattus rattus, indeed.

I'll just cite "official" statstics, deaths and populations and such.

32 posted on 01/06/2022 6:21:20 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Yes, silly. I hope your reading is underway.


33 posted on 01/06/2022 8:23:07 AM PST by Owen
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To: Owen

See you at another thread, as you post “fear” and more fear.


34 posted on 01/06/2022 9:03:23 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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