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4th-century tombs unearthed near Turkey's Black Sea coast
Anadolu Agency ^ | December 24, 2021 | Hayati Akcay, writing by Dilan Pamuk

Posted on 01/05/2022 1:58:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Historical artifacts were discovered in eight tombs dating back to the fourth century in present-day northern Turkey, officials announced on Friday.

The tombs were uncovered during roadway expansion efforts in the Kurtulus district of Ordu, a province on Turkey's Black Sea coast, with teams from the local museums directorate launching excavations for the artifacts' urgent recovery.

Officials added that many human and animal remains, including skeletons, were found in the tombs, along with pieces of jewelry made of gold, sardine stone, silver, glass, and bronze.

Pieces of a glass bottle and beads were also found in one of the tombs, they said.

The findings were taken to the Ordu Museum Directorate.

(Excerpt) Read more at aa.com.tr ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: anatolia; blacksea; godsgravesglyphs; romanempire; romansilver; silver
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Human, animal remains, jewelry made of various materials discovered in excavations, say officials
Human, animal remains, jewelry made of various materials discovered in excavations, say officials

1 posted on 01/05/2022 1:58:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 01/05/2022 1:58:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Officials added that many human and animal remains, including skeletons, were found in the tombs...

Duuhhh...of course! It's a freakin' TOMB!

3 posted on 01/05/2022 2:23:04 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Was Pontus, then Capadocia.


4 posted on 01/05/2022 2:35:24 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SunkenCiv
“…pieces of jewelry made of gold, sardine stone…”

Ok, I’ll bite!

5 posted on 01/05/2022 2:47:08 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: SunkenCiv

I am constantly amazed how often such sites are discovered.


6 posted on 01/05/2022 2:48:08 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: SunkenCiv

Do they mean 4th century B.C. or 4th century A.D.?


7 posted on 01/05/2022 4:07:55 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Sardine Stone (Red Carnelian) is actually pretty cool if you are a rock person.


8 posted on 01/05/2022 4:35:24 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“I am constantly amazed how often such sites are discovered.”

It is because they are finally being allowed to dig past 12 feet. Forever funding would not allow digging past 12 feet. Might find something that doesn’t fit the official narrative...

And they finally are... :)


9 posted on 01/05/2022 4:38:46 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I never learned about sardine stone back when I was in *school*. /rimshot


10 posted on 01/05/2022 8:09:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Openurmind
I looked up "Red Carnelian" and it is a gorgeous semi-precious stone. The site I found, "stonesofhealing" has a good description...
A glassy, translucent stone, Carnelian is an orange-colored variety of Chalcedony, a mineral of the Quartz family. Its color varies from pale pinkish-orange to a deep rusty brown, though it is most known for its brilliant orange and red-orange crystals. Its name comes from a Latin word meaning “flesh.” Carnelian entered recorded history more than 4000 years ago. This orange mineral rock was revered by ancient noblemen and noblewomen. Ancient Babylonians, Greeks and Romans wore amulets and talismans made from carnelian stones. They also wore insignia rings adorned with carnelian gemstones and made seals out of carnelian rock.
Then their description wanders off into the metaphysical crystals "healing" bunkum...
Carnelian treats lower back problems, rheumatism, arthritis, neuralgia and depression. It regulates the kidneys, and accelerates healing in bones and ligaments. Improves vitamin and mineral absorption and ensures good blood supply to organs and tissues. Carnelian is full of the life force, stimulating metabolism and a good supply of blood to the organs and tissues. It influences the reproductive organs of both sexes, and increases fertility, overcoming frigidity and impotence. It aids in menstrual and menopausal symptoms, and may aid in vitro and artificial insemination.
How can you NOT like a stone "full of the life force" that influences your reproductive organs?


11 posted on 01/05/2022 8:27:23 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Not sure, although I’m inclined to think AD, Roman era, even though it was over 1000 years old by 400 AD.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordu#History

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordu#Archaeology

Periplus of the Euxine Sea by Arrian of Nicomedia (ref to its ancient name, Cotyora)
https://topostext.org/work/203

§ 23 From the Thermodon to the river Beris ninety stadia. From the Beris to the river Thoaris sixty stadia. From Thoaris to Oenoe thirty stadia. From Oenoe to the river Phigamus forty stadia. From Phigamus to the fortress of Phadisana one hundred and fifty stadia. From Phadisana to the city of Polemonium ten stadia. From Polemonium to the promontory called the Jasonian an hundred and thirty stadia. From the Jasonian promontory to the island of the Cilices fifteen stadia. From this island to Boona, where there is a port for ships, seventy-five stadia. From Boona to Cotyora ninety stadia. Xenophon mentions Cotyora as a city, and says, that it was a colony of the Sinopians: at present it is no more than a village, and that not a large one. From Cotyora to the river Melanthius is, at the utmost, sixty stadia.


12 posted on 01/05/2022 8:35:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yeah, I like pretty rocks. Rockhounded all my life.

Sardius was one of the 12 stones mentioned in the bible too. :)

https://www.oakrocks.net/bible-stones/


13 posted on 01/06/2022 5:09:13 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

Fascinating info about stones mentioned in the Bible. I didn’t know that. Thanks.


14 posted on 01/06/2022 5:24:12 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Looks like God liked pretty rocks too... :)

I would be curious of the origin sources for these stones. If they were imported from mines in the area around Israel or Jordan it could make a direct Biblical Christian connection to these tombs found in Turkey. Even if none of the other artifacts are related to trade and interaction with Christian cultures. Be hard to deny where they came from.

I hope they do a follow up with more research on where these stones originated from. :)


15 posted on 01/06/2022 6:04:30 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

The article you posted listed the locations of some long-term mines in Egypt, Afghanistan and other locations. Long distance trade back then was amazing.


16 posted on 01/06/2022 7:12:32 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Yep, be pretty cool to make that connection for sure. :)


17 posted on 01/06/2022 7:22:14 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: SunkenCiv
Xenophon mentions Cotyora in Anabasis 5.5.3, where he calls it a Greek city. The immediately preceding passage about the Mossynoeci (Mossynoikoi) is very interesting--he calls them the most barbaric of all the peoples the Ten Thousand encountered and the furthest removed from Greek customs. Among other things, the Mossynoeci wanted to have sex in public with the courtesans accompanying the Greek army.
18 posted on 01/09/2022 3:13:58 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
Among other things, the Mossynoeci wanted to have sex in public with the courtesans accompanying the Greek army.
That must have seemed weird to any pederasts who were in his army.

19 posted on 01/09/2022 7:18:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Even Greek men who had a positive attitude towards pederasty (Xenophon seems to have been one of them) generally married a wife in order to have sons to carry on the family. The behavior which appalled the Greeks was having sex in full view of everyone.


20 posted on 01/10/2022 2:36:01 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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