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More preliminary evidence that the vaccines have led to a spike in deaths
American Thinker ^ | 4 Jan, 2022 | Professor X

Posted on 01/04/2022 3:57:54 AM PST by MtnClimber

Obvious question: is it an aberration or is it for real? Alas, a cursory examination suggests it may be for real.

A recent shocking report in American Thinker suggests that life insurance payouts are considerably worse then executives expected. Obvious question: is it an aberration or is it for real? Alas, a cursory examination suggests it may be for real.

The scan of the following insurance companies confirms the initial report. For Prudential, they have had a massive 87% increase in death benefits paid comparing the third quarter of 2020 to the third quarter of 2021. Such a detailed breakdown wasn’t available for New York Life, but their 2021 year to date (1 Jan to 30 Sept) death benefit payout is up by 27%. Examining Pacific Life documents identifies multiple units. For Pacific Life the year to date claims are up by only 12%. But for a subsidiary, Pacific Life and Annuity, claims are up by over 80%. This is an opportunistic search; more data may be forthcoming.

Life insurance companies have strong incentives to be accurate in their reporting to financial markets. It is possible that these deaths represent neglected care, the postponed treatments of heart disease, cancer, and the like. But that seems unlikely given the spike in the third quarter deaths. And presumably COVID already has taken the most vulnerable in 2020 in the absence of a vaccine. These massive claims seemed to be a phenomenon of the third quarter—about six months after the vaccine regimen became widely available. This just offers further evidence that something is very wrong with these vaccines.

End the mandates. End the vaccination program. And let’s start asking Pfizer what they knew and when.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: communism; rona
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1 posted on 01/04/2022 3:57:54 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

There are links to some of these insurance company quarterly reports for those who care to verify the claims.


2 posted on 01/04/2022 3:58:05 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

ITS_JUST_A_COINCIDENCE_PING


3 posted on 01/04/2022 4:10:21 AM PST by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: MtnClimber

Fraud vitiates everything. The indemnification for pharmaceutical korporations needs to be limited to testing phases with full disclosure, not the rollout stage.


4 posted on 01/04/2022 4:10:43 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: MtnClimber

If data were provided that showed cause of death and age, for example, with historical baseline data as well, and vaccination status, this might be meaningful. For example, if the deaths are 40 to 60 year olds due to overdose and are a 1600% increase, it probably has nothing to do with the vaccines (although perhaps something to do with the COVID policies). If it were strokes and heart attacks across many age groups and only among the vaccinated, then it would clearly implicate the vaccines. If it is same but vaccination status not known, it would still implicate the vaccines, but the media and corporate medical would claim it was due to neglected/delayed treatment (which is ludicrous really, if it is healthy people with no history they wouldn’t be treated in the first place).


5 posted on 01/04/2022 4:18:24 AM PST by LambSlave
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To: T.B. Yoits

The government seems to want to seal the evidence from Big Pharma for about 75 years or so.

But I imagine that if the winds of fortune change and the government orders those records to be unsealed in the near future, an unfortunate computer error may result in their accidental deletion entirely.


6 posted on 01/04/2022 4:19:50 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Mass hypnosis of society. So many people are blind to the Truth which is in front of them.)
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To: MtnClimber

7 posted on 01/04/2022 4:24:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: LambSlave

It is not evidence yet. It may not even be the vaccines. It could be delayed COVID damage. If it was the vaccines it would have been found in the long-term clinical studies. Oh, never mind.


8 posted on 01/04/2022 4:24:30 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
Fauci et. al. and CHY-NA are liable.

Never forget that simple fact.

9 posted on 01/04/2022 4:50:24 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (I use an euphemism for "Let's Go Brandon!". It's F*** Joe Brain-dead! )
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To: Aevery_Freeman

i dunno overdose deaths are way up too.
though when i think about it, most ods probably dont have life insurance.


10 posted on 01/04/2022 4:54:09 AM PST by orionrising
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To: MtnClimber

his number has run around 2 million on an annualized run-rate for a very long time. It is somewhat responsive to economic booms and busts with a 16-17 year lag; more people make children, but when they do it takes 16-17 years for them to show up in this figure. 16-17 years ago was literally the best of times; birth rates were rising as we came out of the Tech Wreck. Indeed in 2018 in December the annualized run rate was about 2.5 million. It was in December of 2019 too — right in front of *****. And in December of 2020 it was back to more-or-less baseline at 2.1 million.

So where did the 1.2 million people that should have been added to the workforce over the last year go?

They didn’t go anywhere. They were added.

This means the real question is who got subtracted?

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243839


11 posted on 01/04/2022 5:52:43 AM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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I don’t know why you folks are running with this story. Five minutes on the Excess Deaths page shows there is zero evidence of 40% more 18-64 than pre Covid years. It has not happened.

The graphs show no Excess Deaths 2020 and 2021 for 18-44 group and modest ED’s for the 45-64 group. And that modest increase was both 2020 and 2021, which undercuts the vax blame.

Why don’t people dismiss absurdity and get their own numbers. Oh, and you can stop with the vax/antivax hand waving. Deaths are up. They are up among the old. ALL of the old, not just old with pre-existing comorbidities blah blah — because nearly all old people have those. 77% of 65+ have hypertension. 50% of 80+ men have prostate cancer. It is the nature of “old” to have problems.

I think this comorbidity talk comes from a desire to deny inevitability. That is harmless delusion unless it starts to affect behavior wrt the virus. Old folks are virus targets. Period. Pretending otherwise will get you dead.


12 posted on 01/04/2022 5:56:40 AM PST by Owen
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To: MtnClimber

Ya think?


13 posted on 01/04/2022 7:01:15 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Owen

“Oh, and you can stop with the vax/antivax hand waving. Deaths are up. They are up among the old. ALL of the old, not just old with pre-existing comorbidities blah blah — because nearly all old people have those.”

Speaking as someone who is both old and has comorbidities and has not had the vax (and never will), I believe you are correct.

We need an honest evaluation of the numbers — not hype. I’m not sure we will ever get that, though. So, we go with what we “think” and what we observe.

The fact is most all of us get old and then we die (not 100%, though. Obviously some die young). Today there are 46M souls in this country over 65. That number will grow to almost 65M by 2030. So, if you assume old people die and there are more old people, then you do the math.

Another point is that my so-called comorbidities are serious and I have been dealing with and managing them for almost 8 years. I know of many who have had COVID who have my same conditions. They got sick from COVID. The smart ones were treated with drugs that are known to work. Then they got well. A few died.

COVID and the response to COVID are being run by fools and I honestly believe the vax can kill you (over 20,000 or more deaths now and 2,000,000 total adverse events). Time will tell if there are deaths in the future from this hyped-up, ill-conceived vax program. I come down on the side of “I just don’t know.” I also don’t care because I do not plan to take the shot.


14 posted on 01/04/2022 7:10:51 AM PST by icclearly
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To: Owen

Executives at insurance companies signing off on false financial documents concerning the number of life insurance policies they paid out can go to jail. You can trust the numbers.


15 posted on 01/04/2022 8:36:58 AM PST by Marcell
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To: icclearly

Your data is just slightly out of date. The 65+ count in the US is not 56 million (and even that is maybe out of date, I think it is 2019 ).

Approx 1.8 million 65+ people die each year, all causes, pre Covid. That number will rise with the population %. The ugly part is the Covid addition is officially about 450K. Likely higher because of all the old codgers living alone who died of Covid by trying to tough it out. They got a wellness check a week later from the stink. Loaded into a bag for the morgue. Never tested. Not counted. Very common.

That’s a minimum 25% increase over normal death count of 65+ people.

THAT is what the virus did. Has done. Is still doing. And is just as likely to get worse as get better.

All that crap about viruses mutate to more gentle forms over time. Tell that to Delta, that is much more severe than Alpha.


16 posted on 01/04/2022 9:17:36 AM PST by Owen
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To: Marcell

First of all, we didn’t see any SEC documents he filed. All we have are alleged quotes in some sort of media.

Second of all, one should trust numbers, go look at them.
The Excess Deaths page. It’s not rocket science. You can see reality. There is no 40% increase visible.

Now, you could imagine that people who get life insurance are more likely to die. Maybe they get killed for the insurance. 40% seems a stretch for that, but it would be the only way to reconcile non official quotes with official Excess Death data.


17 posted on 01/04/2022 9:21:47 AM PST by Owen
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“Five minutes on the Excess Deaths page...”

Ah, so relying on one source makes your analysis more reliable than people who have researched multiple, non-correlated sources?

What happens if the one source you rely on is being manipulated?


18 posted on 01/04/2022 10:51:50 AM PST by Boogieman
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But it’s not 1 source. The individual constituent contribution to the Excess Deaths layout are all presented and can be verified state by state, and territory by territory. I think Veterans Affairs also provides data, since their record keeping doesn’t report at the state level.

Each of those individual sources can be examined and added up. You’re asking for a rather big conspiracy to have that data non legit. You’re also asking all that all the tabulators have agreed to participate in the conspiracy.

From day 1, Excess Deaths have been the gold standard. They are ALL causes. No danger of the whole with vs of crap being involved.

Go spend some time there. You go to the page. You scroll down to “update dashboard”. Before clicking that, select weekly deaths by age, then click. And the graphs are an inch or so of scroll below. It’s excellent info.


19 posted on 01/04/2022 10:57:16 AM PST by Owen
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“Your data is just slightly out of date. The 65+ count in the US is not 56 million (and even that is maybe out of date, I think it is 2019 ).”
“THAT is what the virus did. Has done. Is still doing. And is just as likely to get worse as get better.”

I’m not sure who you are replying to, but it is surely not in response to my comment! Your conclusion of what the virus is and is still doing is just your opinion and is not supported by any facts!

The fact is that over 40% of those deaths over 65 are in nursing homes where in some states people were sent to die! That, thank goodness, has changed since about January of 2021.

The overall death rate from the virus in the U.S. is 2565 per million. The overall death rate in nursing homes is 17000 per million. Well over 600% higher!

While it is clear that the death rate from COVID is higher in 65+ almost one-half is due to the fools managing the virus response.

The death “rate” from the virus has dropped overall and will probably remain so until the deaths from the vaccines begin to kick it back up.

By the way, Omicron does not know that the virus mutations become less severe. Send Omicron a message and let them know. I’m sure that mutation needs to have your instructions. The deaths from Omicron in South Africa where it was first reported and in the U.K. are minimal to none.

You are wrong.


20 posted on 01/04/2022 11:34:30 AM PST by icclearly
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