Politifact.com
Posted on 01/03/2022 8:10:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind
There is a risk of myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle, in young people from the vaccine. But it is rare, and symptoms of the condition are normally mild. The CDC and others say the benefits of the vaccine far outweigh the risks.
The CDC said the only confirmed fatalities related to the COVID-19 vaccines are nine deaths from a blood clot disorder tied to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
Deaths and other adverse events reported to the government’s VAERS database do not mean they are confirmed to have been caused by the vaccine.
A Texas cardiologist recently made a claim about the risk of myocarditis in teens from the COVID-19 vaccine, citing a study that health experts raised doubts about in September. He also floated a debunked claim that 45,000 Americans have died from the vaccine.
Dr. Peter McCullough made the claims in an appearance on the "DarkHorse Podcast; an article about his appearance, from the website Conservative Fighters, carried the headline: "Top cardiologist: Study shows COVID vaccines are more dangerous than covid itself."
"The most shocking thing in the Hoag analysis was that a child ages 12-17 is more likely to be hospitalized with myocarditis than taking your chances with COVID and ever getting hospitalized with COVID," McCullough claimed.
The claim is not accurate. Public health experts say the benefits of the COVID-19 vaccine outweigh the risks for teens.
McCullough was referring to a study by Dr. Tracy Hoag and others posted to MedRxiv, a site where researchers post preliminary versions of scientific papers before they are peer reviewed. PolitiFact found that several doctors and researchers pointed out flaws in that study’s methodology.
McCullough, president of the Cardio Renal Society of America and editor of the journal Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine, is a frequent Fox News guest and has a talk radio show called "The McCullough Report" on the America Out Loud network. His biography on the network’s website says he is "among the world’s experts" on the virus.
However, McCullough has made several claims during the pandemic that have been debunked by fact-checkers, such as that healthy people under 50 don’t need the COVID-19 vaccine and that vaccines offered no protection against the delta variant.
Baylor Scott & White Health, the large Texas-based health system, cut ties with McCullough in February and got a temporary restraining order against him in September, accusing him of continuing to claim an affiliation with it in media interviews, a claim he denied, according to Medscape.
McCullough’s claim that teens are more at risk from the vaccine due to myocarditis is not accurate. Health officials acknowledge there is a risk of the heart disorder but say it’s rare and that cases are generally mild.
Hospitalizations of teens due to COVID-19 infection remain low, compared with other age groups, CDC data shows, but the risk of illness or death due to the virus is greater than the risk from myocarditis, health experts say.
Martha Sharan, a spokesperson for the CDC, said that cases of myocarditis after the COVID-19 vaccine are still being investigated.
"It shares some features with typical viral myocarditis in terms of the age and sex distribution, the presenting symptom of chest pain, and various lab values. However, myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccine has less occurrence of heart failure and has a milder acute clinical course," Sharan said.
She added that "short-term outcomes of myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccine are much better than those of typical viral myocarditis," and that studies of the long-term outcomes are continuing.
When the vaccines first started coming out, doctors were seeing a small number of males in the 15-to-24 age group with symptoms of myocarditis, including chest pain, low-grade fever, and some changes in MRIs and EKGs, said Dr. Stuart Berger, chief of cardiology in the Department of Pediatrics at Lurie Children’s Hospital of Chicago.
"These were kids that got symptoms resolved over a very short period of time, probably 24 to 48 hours, so went home and were fine," Berger said.
Berger added that "the incidence of that was much, much, much smaller than myocarditis in the general population that is not related to COVID."
Berger said people, even children, are at much higher risk of getting sick or dying from COVID-19 itself or from Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome, which has been reported in many children who have had COVID-19.
His recommendation to his patients? Get the vaccine.
I expect the military would be covering up and mislabeling any damage or deaths from the vaxxine. When I was a linguist flying c-135s out of Okinawa the story we got re a plane hat disappeared a few years previously was that the Russians had shot it down over Soviet territory. The 29 dead airmen had been reported to their families over an extended period of time as having died variously in accidents and in other places.
Classic lol.
The odds are five to one in your favor when you play Russian Roulette.
No one here gets out alive!
Well, the pro vax arguments are mostly backed up by vigorous assertion. The anti vaxx arguments have many studies and publications to back them up. Statistics and analyses seem to all back up the anti vax position.
Unbelievable. This is evil at work here by these political facts, dismissing this.
We are in trouble!
Science seems utterly incapable of policing itself and has become simply Politics.
We are in a sort of Dark Age.
#4 posted on 1/3/2022, 8:19:34 AM by ClearCase_guy
There have been, I believe, two deaths of pilots at the controls with the co pilot taking over, one for Delta and one for Southwest. There are reports of pilots going to work with severe chest pains and headaches due to fear they will lose their careers if they don’t.
I strongly disagree.
arthurus wrote: “The odds are five to one in your favor when you play Russian Roulette.”
Over 508 Million doses of the covid vaccines have been given.
If this were Russian Roulette, there would have to be over 100 Million deaths from the vaccine.
Qiviut wrote: “I strongly disagree.”
COVID doesn’t care whether you agree or not.
[[But why is it that we can’t get a debate of sorts]]
Because the “powers that be” (ie the gov and fauci and ilk) aren’t open for debate. They are reaponaible,for,perhaps 100’s of 1000’s,of deaths because they woild,not,allow,off label,meds to,be used under the “right to try” act.
Ask yourself,why that is- it’s fairly apparent that there is a massive political and financial reason. Trump very early on touted hcq, and folks all,over the country were touting how,it helped themsurvive, even a congresswoman, a liberal no less, came on and thanked Trump for touting it as it saved her life. Immediately,the left started screaming aboutmhow,dangerous it was, znd,liberal governors zll,over began banning it for no good reason. It was blatantly obvious that they did so for both political and financial reasons
They,made the lame excuse that hcq was “too dangerous” to use, which was a bald-faced lie, and they instead demanded that folks,be treated with remdisiver, which wemnow,know,we now,, far more dangerous and it is nearly useless. They pushed a dangerous drug, while banning a cheap safe drug with over 60 years of,safety records. Even the medical,journals,jumped on the ban, then later “admitted they were wrong” to do so, but ONLY AFTER they had scared,the public and after they knew that liberal governors would,continue banning it did they feel safe enough to,come out and admit their lie.
THE LEFT are masters at shutting down debate- even going so,far as to cancel anyone that tries to counter their bs with facts. Twitter Facebook, and ilk just outright ban anyone that tries. The medical profession won’t even discuss the matter with folks,like Dr zelenko, and infact they try to,ostracized him and others like him
That is why there can’t be honest debate. Pfizer and ilk are making billions and billions worldwide, and nothing is going to stop that even if it means many lives are lost that could,have been saved via alternative complimentary off label meds with long safety records.
It,is,just like the “climate debate”- the keftmhave declared that it is “settled science” that man is “over 95% responsible for climate change”, and they refuse to listen to listen to that prove otherwise.
It’s no great mystery why there can’t be honest debate- the left are not interested in the public finding out the truth,even if it means the truth could save their lives. Pfizer and ilk are huge donations to the liberal party, and the left have rewarded companies like,them by waging a campaign to shut down any honest reporting. The left,have canceled the truth
Thanks, I wasn’t aware there had been deaths, but knew of a,report where a pilot blacked out while,still on the ground
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmsr1804754
A list of things far more likely to kill kids than than CoupFlu...
Using statistics on what has been prevented as far as taking the vaccine reminds me of all the unemployment statistics during the Obama years about “jobs saved”. I wonder what happened to that category?
RE: But why is it that we can’t get a debate of sorts. Even on twitter, back and forth.
Even on Twitter? You know what they do to people they disagree with.... right?
Would it make you feel better if they started a website called MediFact and posted the same article? What is COVID if not political?
Where communists went wrong
The first communist revolutions , after coming to power, shot their revolutionists
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Their useful idiots were untrustworthy and shot.
This created the unintended consequence of establishing an historical fact and thus became a detriment to future attempted revolutions.
I guess they thought their current revolution would succeed in global rule. Otherwise they would have foreseen creating this detriment.
That is where the communists went wrong.
They have found a way to circumvent this detriment.
Bioweapons, Mass psychosis and fraudici vaccinations.
They created the external threat of pandemic , then stampeded the useful idiot portion of the human herd that didn’t die of the bioweapon part 1 into the bioweapon 2 , the vaccinations .
Now, instead of eliminating the useful idiots after the revolution with lead shots, they have the surviving useful idiots eliminating them selves during the revolution with a vaccination shot.
Highly ironic and highly effective.
Highly evil.
They aim to win this time around
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