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How Likely Is Reinfection Following Covid Recovery?
Epoch Times ^ | 12/31/2021 | Paul Elias Alexander

Posted on 12/31/2021 10:38:09 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Public-health messaging from the beginning of this pandemic has had very little to say about immunity acquired following infection. But for most people, it is a real and pressing concern, and not only because of the vaccine mandates that have little or no regard for it. People want to know whether once recovered they can be confident of not getting it again.

Must everyone live in fear forever or is there a basis for the recovered to live with confidence?

We have looked at the published evidence and can conclude based on the existing body of evidence, that reinfections are very rare, if at all and based on typically a few instances with questionable confirmation of an actual case of re-infection (references 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25).

Colson et al. did publish a very interesting paper on evidence of a SARS-CoV-2 re-infection with a different genotype. They sought to show that the same patient was infected in April, cleared the virus, seroconverted, but was “re-infected four months later with a new viral variant. The two infections reflect the circulating strains in Marseille at the same time. It is the most comprehensive study as it documented seroconversion following the first infection, showed drastically different viral genomes with 34 nucleotide differences, and ruled out errors of samples by techniques commonly used for forensic identifications.”

This study deserves serious reflection. If it is correct, we have at least one well documented case with a 4-month duration between infections.

However, A very recent study in Qatar (Lancet) found that “natural infection appears to elicit strong protection against reinfection with an efficacy ~95% for at least seven months”. Hall in Lancet reported same.

“The study in Austria also found that the frequency of re-infection from COVID-19 caused hospitalization in only five out of 14,840 (0.03%) people and death in one out of 14,840 (0.01%)”.

A very recent UK observational study by Lumley published in CID (July 2021) looked at the incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection and B.1.1.7 variant infection in healthcare workers by antibody and vaccination status. “Researchers analyzed records from Curative, a clinical laboratory based in San Dimas that specializes in COVID-19 testing and has during the pandemic been conducting routine workforce screening. None of the 254 employees who had COVID-19 and recovered became re-infected, while four of the 739 who were fully vaccinated contracted the disease…it should give confidence to people who have recovered that they are at very low risk for repeat infection and some experts including myself believe that protection is equal to vaccination”.

“Israel National News reports that this data was presented to the Israeli Health Ministry and yielded the following breakdown of breakthrough infections of those vaccinated vs. those with prior infection:

With a total of 835,792 Israelis known to have recovered from the virus, the 72 instances of reinfection amount to 0.0086% of people who were already infected with COVID.

“By contrast, Israelis who were vaccinated were 6.72 times more likely to get infected after the shot than after natural infection, with over 3,000 of the 5,193,499, or 0.0578%, of Israelis who were vaccinated getting infected in the latest wave…Irish researchers recently published a review of 11 cohort studies with over 600,000 total recovered COVID patients who were followed up with over 10 months. They found the reinfection rate to be just 0.27% “with no study reporting an increase in the risk of reinfection over time”.

Dr. Marty Makary of Johns Hopkins wrote “reinfection is extremely rare and even when it does happen, the symptoms are very rare or [those individuals] are asymptomatic.”

Dr. Peter McCullough (personal communication June 27th 2021) advises: “I have demanded that if any one proposes a recurrent case the following are fulfilled: 90 days between the two illnesses. The episodes have both cardinal signs and symptoms with SARS-CoV-2 testing with at least two or more concordant results (e.g. RT-PCR, antigen, sequencing). To my knowledge, this has never happened. On one of the occasions the first or second episode was simply a false positive PCR or ambiently positive antibody result with no clinical syndrome.”

Dr. Peter McCullough and Dr. Harvey Risch (July 18th 2021) have suggested as another model for consideration para “People have suggested to require more than nominal PCR positivity and having signs/symptoms to establish reinfection. So, PCR Ct<25 in both instances, antibody tests confirming the infections, symptoms both times, and separated by more than 90 days are some considerations that people have suggested.”

Importantly, the World Health Organization (WHO) has recently (May 10th 2021 Scientific brief, WHO/2019-nCoV/Sci_Brief/Natural_immunity/2021.1) alluded to what has been clear for many months (one year now), which is that people are very rarely re-infected. The WHO is very late but better late than never.

The key points they have stated in this briefing which stand out and warrants a mention (again we always knew this and tried informing the CDC and WHO of this across the last year) is that:

i) Within 4 weeks following infection, 90-99% of individuals infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus develop detectable neutralizing antibodies.

ii) Available scientific data suggests that in most people immune responses remain robust and protective against reinfection for at least 6-8 months after infection (the longest follow up with strong scientific evidence is currently approximately 8 months).

iii) Studies aimed to detect immunological memory including the assessment of cellular immunity by testing for the presence of memory B cells, and CD4+ and CD8+ T cells, observed robust immunity at 6 months post-infection in 95% of subjects under study, which included individuals with asymptomatic, mild, moderate and severe infections.

iv) Current evidence points to most individuals developing strong protective immune responses following natural infection with SARS-CoV-2.

A very recent discussion on mild COVID-19 inducing lasting antibody protection, was based on a publication in Nature. The research showed that people who have had mild illness develop antibody-producing cells that can last a lifetime.

“Months after recovering from mild cases of COVID-19, people still have immune cells in their body pumping out antibodies against the virus that causes COVID-19, according to a study from researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Such cells could persist for a lifetime, churning out antibodies all the while”.

In terms of Omicron, we are not seeing data or evidence to conclude that natural immunity has been breached. In fact, we believe, unless we are shown otherwise, that natural immunity has indeed held and worked marvelously. Based on the reported symptoms and sequelae, it can be considered an immune “rechallenge” and not a bona fide reinfection.

Based on current evidence, natural immunity is doing its job and innate immunity and natural immunity are working hand-in-hand and Omicron shows us this. The role of innate immunity is to protect as the first line of defense and typically completes the task and especially in children and young persons.

Top immunology and virology experts argue that the more the variants are different from one another, the more trained innate immunity is responsible for cross-protection. Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche (personal communication December 29, 2021) explains that:

“The innate immunity and thus innate antibodies, get ‘trained’ and ‘learn’ with re-exposures. Innate Abs have broad coverage and the innate immune cells secreting those adapt to the different stimuli to which the host get exposed. Repeated exposure during a pandemic will, therefore, result in enhanced training of innate IgM-secreting B cells. This builds the basis for a broadly protective first line of immune defense that is able to deal with all kinds of different variants. This protection is likely to be the key pillar of protection, especially during a pandemic of continuously evolving more infectious variants.

In case of highly infectious variants (such as Omicron), the first line of immune defense (innate Abs) may not succeed in capturing all of the virions rapidly enough to prevent viral entry into the cell (as the latter occurs in a very effective way: that’s per definition the case with highly infectious variants). So, innate immunity is taking care of the peak of viral load. Hence, even in cases where the virus breaks through the innate immune defense, the course of the disease is mild as acquired, highly specific Abs arrive in time to abrogate the infection caused by that specific variant.”

We have to continue examining this issue and be open either direction. However the in toto evidence points to a rarity or suggests it is very limited, and potentially unlikely happening at all.



TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: covid; naturalimmunity; recovery; reinfection
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To: House Atreides

What test did they use?
It is Flu season and I know a number of folks who actually have the Flu.


21 posted on 01/01/2022 5:42:08 AM PST by trebb (Fight like your life and future depends on it - because they do.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ask my daughter and two nieces who are front lne healthcare providers. All three are jabbed and boosted, all three have had covid times two. With the illness more severe the second time around. All have contracted the second round of covid this past week.


22 posted on 01/01/2022 5:46:09 AM PST by buckalfa (I have forgotten more than I ever knew.)
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To: SeekAndFind

My parents got it, got over it, no drama, then were convinced to get jabbed. Three shots. Then got it again.

I suspect the shot messes up your natural immunity. Plus, they are pretty old.


23 posted on 01/01/2022 6:03:40 AM PST by marron
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Thanks for sharing... If we can get enough stories like yours we’ll be able to start figuring out what’s going on with this disease. We’re pretty sure Biden and his thugs are not going to share any truths that might hamper their control or besmirch China.


24 posted on 01/01/2022 6:30:26 AM PST by GOPJ (Biden and his commie thugs don’t want us vaccinated - - they want us hated...)
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To: House Atreides
Well, reinfection most definitely CAN occur.

My wife and I had it in October of 2020 and recovered. We contracted it again two weeks ago, albeit in much more moderate form. Was it the Omicron variant? Who knows. We were never jabbed, nor do we intend to be.

25 posted on 01/01/2022 6:32:41 AM PST by Salvey
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To: SeekAndFind

I finally get to “experience” the CCP virus. Was with family in Arkansas on Monday through Wednesday. Came home Wednesday evening and woke up Thursday with a throbbing head and general discomfort. Didn’t take anything all day.. Went to bed Thursday and tossed and turned and decided to take two aspirin. Slept like a baby for the next 4 to 5 hours. When the aspirin wore off the discomfort returns. This is a type of pain where when you move your eyes to the left or right it hurts. Took the QuickVue test yesterday and it is CCP virus positive. Before bedtime last night I took two aspirin and slept for nine hours. Started to get drainage and a slight sore throat. This morning I gargled with some hydrogen peroxide and took a couple aspirin for the day. Good oxygen levels of 95 and no fever (97.7)… let’s see how this rodeo turns out! Right now the aspirin is working quite well with the symptoms I am having.


26 posted on 01/01/2022 6:46:20 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: blueplum
The vaxxed are Super Spreaders. New series coming...

"The Walking Vaxxed"

Only with a direct shot thru their viral-loaded noses can you kill the Walking Vaxxed!


27 posted on 01/01/2022 6:55:18 AM PST by moovova
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To: wardaddy

About as sure as one can be. The first time, we tested positive for covid and then tested positive for antibodies after recovering. This time, we’ve tested positive and we’ll see about antibodies afterward when the time comes.

I’ve read those studies too. I’m just reporting what I’m seeing and experiencing. Those I know who got Delta fairly recently aren’t getting sick from this.


28 posted on 01/01/2022 9:44:56 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks. Top quality article. Forwarding.


29 posted on 01/01/2022 9:46:03 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Husband and I tested positive in August 2020. He tested positive for it Monday, December 27, 2021. He was exposed at work and started showing symptoms on the 23rd.

My daughter and I got sick Christmas Day but refused to be tested. After two days I am fine but they are still tired, coughing, sneezing and stuffed up.

The first time in 2020 I was very sick for about four days and my husband had only loss of smell and taste. Daughter never had any symptoms and never tested.

There’s so much to distrust that I don’t know if I had it now or had it then. The tests are designed to show positives so the case numbers are high.


30 posted on 01/01/2022 9:47:07 AM PST by Jvette (America was built on freedom not freebies)
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To: SeekAndFind

Non-paywalled article. Email link and share!

https://brownstone.org/articles/how-likely-is-reinfection-following-covid-recovery/


31 posted on 01/01/2022 9:51:04 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“depends how many shots you’ve had”

I agree. The more shots that you have had, the more your chances of getting Covid again.


32 posted on 01/01/2022 10:21:18 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: trebb

“What test did they use?
It is Flu season and I know a number of folks who actually have the Flu.”
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She had an antigen test. They are accurate when positive but can have false negatives.


33 posted on 01/01/2022 10:45:35 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for this. I’ve been asking about antibodies for months.


34 posted on 01/01/2022 12:26:01 PM PST by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts)
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To: Jvette

The only way to know for sure is to get your blood tested for antibodies.
I did when I had my annual physical in December.
I had it in February 2021 but was like a mild cold.
My wife had it in October.
I started to feel sick again for a couple days but then was fine.
So, if you can get your blood tested for antibodies.


35 posted on 01/01/2022 12:40:40 PM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Parley Baer

exactly


36 posted on 01/01/2022 1:29:21 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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