Posted on 12/31/2021 5:45:58 PM PST by ransomnote
Deboonked you say?
No FRiend, that bill was as real as a heart attack. Introduced in 2015, as you say. Inexplicably re-introduced year, after year, after year. Ebola was a long time ago.
It was pulled back just a couple weeks ago... after someone shined a light on it.
We should be looking at things like this. Why are you trying to draw attention from it?
It was only gone once someone noticed it. Why do you feel so strongly that we should not notice this and discuss it?
There are hundreds of proposed laws. This never even got out of committee. It’s junk.
Oh, I know. But it was there.
And when people started looking, they pulled it quick. They didn’t pull it anytime before... and they had years to do it (2015-2021).But they sure did when it got a little attention.
What if this bill was sitting there waiting in the wings and something a little “scarier” than the ‘Rona came along?
I have found that whenever a crowd blows in calling someone kooks and conspiracy theorists... better take a closer look at the info presented.
This answer is not satisfactory, because there are not hundreds of proposed bills that would implement concentration camps.
That’s why it’s getting attention.
Of course the bill was real. There is no dispute about that. It was intended for quarantine of Ebola carriers, but the sponsor admitted it *could* be construed to quarantine Covid patients,and he withdrew it. The point is, it is *no longer* up for a vote.
If you want to draw attention to this dead bill, that’s fine by me, but be honest about it and say it has been stricken. One would think you’d want to shout it from the rooftops that it’s dead, ding dong the wicked bill is dead.
Is there a lesson to be learned from said bill? Yes, be careful what you rush enact when something like Ebola comes knocking. No one would have minded if a few people exposed to Ebola were forcibly quarantined if they refused to do so voluntarily. Forcible quarantine for Covid? We the People would very much mind. The good news is, even the NY legislature had better sense than to enact such a measure. Perhaps if the bill had specified that it only applied to Ebola it might have been passed ... but, on the other hand, that might set a worrisome precedent.
These are issues very much worth discussing.
Why not post about these bills?
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4025760/posts?page=12#12
The dead “concentration camp” bill is still listed there (because it is an old list) but if the other bills are still up for vote, they need attention. I am horrified at them, and if I lived in NY, I’d be all over my state reps protesting them.
Wait a minute here. The reason you are rankled about this post is because there is no mention of it being pulled from committee?
Well, there’s the confusion. I went back to look just to be sure. The OP states several times that it was pulled. Once in giant words from Twitter screenshot.
You take issue with it being referred to as a concentration camp? What should we call it when you concentrate people with certain attributes in one facility?
Ebola is quite different than ‘rona. But you know that, being the paragon of honesty.
Ah now I see where the confusion is. This is a second thread posted by ransomnote about the bill, this time with a correction indicating it has been stricken. Well done and thank you to ransomnote.
Her first article from The Daily Expose did not indicate it was stricken, but rather claimed it is still up for a vote, as you can see:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4025760/posts
I have got a number of pings about this from various threads, and, as I was replying from my pings page, did not notice this was a new thread she had posted, as the titles are similar. It would have helped if she had pinged me saying she had posted *another, corrected* thread (and would have been proper ettiquette, too, as I am mentioned in the text of this one), but I am not complaining will take responsibility for my error.
The first posting from The Daily Expose was false and misleading. This one I have no problem with. I don’t share *all* her opinions, but she presents them as her opinions and she should be free to express them here, as we all are.
I imagine we can all agree on what a nasty witch Hillary, though!
You’re full of it...It never went anyplace and it’s gone...gone...gone.
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Why don’t you want conservatives to know about it? WHy did you stop scrolling to try to distract from it? People should know what’s in it - those trying to crush us will use it as soon as they can. “It never went anyplace?” except they amended the bill for 2021-2022 and were about to vote on it in January. Are you that gullible?
Interesting that this piece of totalitarian legislation has such support on FR.
XD.... 100% agree!
Ping to my #27. I meant to include you along with Sarcazmo, but something went wrong or I goofed.
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled NY's Template Bill for American Covid Concentration Camps and Forcible Vaccination, Monitored Treatments, No Right to Contact Family/Lawyer, Indefinite detention of a person, contacts, groups, CatHerd wrote: |
Ah now I see where the confusion is. This is a second thread posted by ransomnote about the bill, this time with a correction indicating it has been stricken. Well done and thank you to ransomnote. Her first article from The Daily Expose did not indicate it was stricken, but rather claimed it is still up for a vote, as you can see: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4025760/posts I have got a number of pings about this from various threads, and, as I was replying from my pings page, did not notice this was a new thread she had posted, as the titles are similar. It would have helped if she had pinged me saying she had posted *another, corrected* thread (and would have been proper ettiquette, too, as I am mentioned in the text of this one), but I am not complaining will take responsibility for my error. The first posting from The Daily Expose was false and misleading. This one I have no problem with. I don’t share *all* her opinions, but she presents them as her opinions and she should be free to express them here, as we all are. I imagine we can all agree on what a nasty witch Hillary, though! |
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Wrong. This is the first article about the bill I posted. Your tireless protection of those who are trying to force this kind of content into law continues.
I posted this and THEN I saw the Expose article and I realized I can't take your word for it, nor that of those saying 'it's been withdrawn!" that is has been withdrawn in any meaningful sense. It can be back on the table tomorrow.
The Daily Expose is likely more accurate in that the bill is still valid for consideration as soon as anyone decides to schedule it. I don't know, and I don't know how to find out. So both articles are up for consideration.
Have you no idea just how conspicuous you and others are being about this content? You are determined to create false impressions about this like careers are at stake.
This was posted on
12/31/2021, 8:45:58 PM · by ransomnote · 31 replies
The Daily Expose thread was posted at
Posted on 12/31/2021, 5:29:33 PM by ransomnote
Link: https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4025760/posts
Yet you claim you posted this one first?
And how could you link to the other, older post in the OP of this one if this one was posted first? Hello?
I have “protected” no one. I’m glad that bill is dead. It stunk, bigly.
The Daily Expose piece was incorrect in that it stated the bill is still up for vote on Jan. 5. It is not. It was withdrawn by its sponsor and stricken on Dec. 22:
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416
By the way, the original text has *not* “been scrubbed from the internet” and you did not need the Wayback Machine. Here they are:
The most recent, A416 (scroll down for full text), also you can download PDF at link here:
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416
The original bill A6891 (2015):
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2015/A6891
Second intoduction, 680 (2017):
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2017/A680
Third introduction, A99 (2019)
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/A99
Yes, it could theoretically be reintroduced again, even though the sponsor said he will not do so (politicians lie, and he’s a dem). You can check on it by going to that same link. If re-introduced, it will show.
If you are concerned a different, but similar, bill might be put on the agenda, you can search here:
https://www.nysenate.gov/search/legislation
You are welcome.
Oops, forgot to address the “Ebola is different from Covid”. Indeed it is. This discussion has been scattered over several threads, and it gets mighty confusing. I addressed that here:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4025799/posts?page=85#85
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