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San Francisco-based DoorDash is requiring engineers to deliver food — and they’re furious
SF Gate ^ | 27 Dec 2021 | Joshua Bote

Posted on 12/28/2021 1:03:37 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

DoorDash, the food delivery app based out of San Francisco, is requiring all its nondelivery employees, including CEO Tony Xu, to do a “dash” once a month — and some employees are seemingly furious.

An engineer with a reported total compensation, or TC, of $400,000 a year griped about the responsibility of having to do a once-a-month delivery. “What the actual f—k?” the engineer wrote on the platform. “I didn’t sign up for this, there was nothing in the offer letter/job description about this.”

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To: DUMBGRUNT

Checkers/Rallys have required the same thing for ALL employees for over 30 years.

5.56mm


41 posted on 12/28/2021 1:45:56 PM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Something else to consider here:

Many engineers in the SF Bay Area are now from India.

They grew up with servants - even those just in the middle class - and with at least the remnants - or stronger - of an ancient Caste system.

For people raised in this kind of environment, telling them that they must now take on tasks that they’ve historically passed off the the “lower” class - it would be taken as quite an insult indeed.

This is another reason why I’m all for this practice from the Door Dash Corporation.


42 posted on 12/28/2021 1:46:01 PM PST by Yossarian
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Something I discovered about Uber. Every time I used them, I’d get a call from a driver and be asked where I was and where I was going. Finally, I asked a talkative driver why. She said, “Obviously, we only make money on longer trips.
The university students call for a ride and they want to go a few hundred or a thousand yards. Especially if it’s raining or hot. It costs more in gas to get there than we make. They never tip and they aren’t nice people.” (This was shortly after they started in Tallahassee. Don’t know if they can still do that. The driver told me they weren’t supposed to do anything of the sort. They were supposed to treat everyone equally. She snorted at that. “People are assholes and students feel entitled to everything they can get.”)


43 posted on 12/28/2021 1:46:42 PM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“I didn’t sign up for this, there was nothing in the offer letter/job description about this.”

It’s under the sentence that states: “other duties as assigned” every offer letter I ever got


44 posted on 12/28/2021 1:47:47 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The same thing for police departments. Once per month or 2 months all senior desk jockeys should work patrol- all hours- weekends-holidays. After time many seem to not remember the basics.


45 posted on 12/28/2021 1:48:57 PM PST by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? Homer Simpson)
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To: Reno89519

My helpers would consider that “taking a break.”


46 posted on 12/28/2021 1:48:58 PM PST by OldWarBaby
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To: 1Old Pro

Prolly industrial engineers, which aren’t real engineers.


47 posted on 12/28/2021 1:49:06 PM PST by Old Yeller (1776 em all. Let God sort it out.)
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To: Herosmith

—” If the software engineers really did their job like riding along with dashers, they would see the real world problems with the app we are forced to live with.”

I do not know but would like to think, that is the intent of the exercise?

Over the years, I’ve had a few of our suppliers spend time reviewing how we use their products.
It happens.


48 posted on 12/28/2021 1:50:31 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
If the software engineers really did their job like riding along with dashers

They'd probably be amazed how many of them are stoned out of their minds.

49 posted on 12/28/2021 1:51:39 PM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I work for a big tech company. They require we eat our own dog food all the time, and we are asked often for our feedback. I give it to them. I figure it makes our products better if I’m honest, and I’ve seen some things I’ve suggested (and others likely suggested it too) actually implemented.

However, I’m not sure I’d be down with having to do a delivery for an organization in a shit hole like San Fran. Sounds like they should be granting hazard pay for something like that.


50 posted on 12/28/2021 1:54:23 PM PST by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: Herosmith
Ok, so I’m a Dasher. The App is an absolute nightmare with the updates taking place on Fridays during the busiest times as well as the other gliches you find while dashing like the app not responding to a completed delivery and others. If the software engineers really did their job like riding along with dashers, they would see the real world problems with the app we are forced to live with.

Bingo. Thank you for sharing. I suspect management at DoorDash is tired of poorly written and managed software and systems impacting their operations. If I was the CEO, I'd do the same until the programming team could get it right.

I regularly live through application support failures from staff who don't have to live with the consequences of their incompetence. They fail at basic understanding of users' needs and standards on the users' end.

Overall, there's a massive regression in the IT industry, mostly due to wage suppression for more than a decade, where user interface, data retrieval, etc. are written as though all the lessons learned in the 1990s and early 2000s never happened.

51 posted on 12/28/2021 1:59:17 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Alberta's Child
Yep. That was one of the good things about working for Japanese companies (in Japan) for 14 years. The bigger companies may not have restroom cleaning turns on the list, but we all had to take a turn collecting and weighing the recyclables.

Our particular division got called out once because our newspaper recycling rate was below 100%. Simple cause: people were taking newspapers home to read on the train. Simple solution: start bringing them back (and maybe include a few from home). We were at 107% the following month.

It sounds silly but it does enhance the teamwork concept.

52 posted on 12/28/2021 1:59:26 PM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: gitmo

—”I’ve spent a lot of time in warehouses and production lines and on trucks delivering products to customers. I know better what they need because of this.”

And you produce a better product too!


53 posted on 12/28/2021 2:01:44 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Graybeard58
Why does Door Dash need engineers? An honest question. Not trying to be snarky.

Someone has to write the code for the application and backend. Sure isn't gonna be some random driver off the street!
54 posted on 12/28/2021 2:06:35 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Herosmith

Not a dasher but a five year gig worker on another platform. I truly believe that anyone that works at the headquarters in any support function for any gig platform should be required to do a minimum of 10 per month. Otherwise they have zero clue what we actually go through on a daily basis and it might just fix some abject stupidity coming from HQ.


55 posted on 12/28/2021 2:12:55 PM PST by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison........like yesterday!!! )
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To: nascarnation

I do! I made so much money last year that my accountant admonished me to get more write offs!


56 posted on 12/28/2021 2:14:49 PM PST by Maskot (Put every dem/lib in prison........like yesterday!!! )
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To: DUMBGRUNT
For 400k I'll do a dash
57 posted on 12/28/2021 2:27:34 PM PST by vigilante2
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To: vigilante2
For 400k I'll do a dash

Heck, I'd run the 440!
58 posted on 12/28/2021 2:38:12 PM PST by Old Yeller (1776 em all. Let God sort it out.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

There’s an idea that should be carried over to Planned Abortionhood administrators: mandate performing a ‘procedure’ once a month and hear the harpies scream.


59 posted on 12/28/2021 2:42:47 PM PST by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: ealgeone

The ole military clause.


60 posted on 12/28/2021 2:52:16 PM PST by pas
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