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GM Releasing Kits That Can Convert Old Gasoline Cars to Electric Vehicles
ET ^ | December 25, 2021 | Naveen Athrappully

Posted on 12/25/2021 3:55:19 AM PST by hamburger hill

General Motors (GM) plans on going beyond manufacturing a fleet of electric cars, according to an announcement Wednesday regarding electrification component sets, which are capable of converting most old gasoline-powered automobiles into new-age electric vehicles (EV).

The technology will be used for EV conversion projects and GM expects to target a group of diverse commercial clients and enable them to meet their sustainability targets. Electrification components will open up new business avenues and the company estimates a market growth of $20 billion by 2030 with the increasing demand for zero-emissions technology.

(Excerpt) Read more at theepochtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science
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To: mad_as_he$$

Thanks, but living in the middle of Indiana makes this difficult.

Now if I had a propane-powered car...

Btw: what does this hydrogen fuel end up costing per mile?

Right now my 2020 GraND cHEROKEE IS costing me about 17 cents per mile.


201 posted on 12/30/2021 6:17:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
 Every year, the United States produces 10 million metric tons of hydrogen, 95% of which comes from an emission-intensive process known as natural gas reforming. When natural gas is split into hydrogen and CO2 either by Steam Methane Reforming or Auto Thermal Reforming – and the CO2 is captured and stored, thus mitigating environmental impacts on the planet – it is known as “blue hydrogen.”

 

It is indeed possible to produce hydrogen in a clean way through renewables, known as “green” hydrogen, but this process remains rare and costly relative to “black” hydrogen (carbon intensive) or “blue” methods.

202 posted on 12/30/2021 6:22:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cymbeline

Amazon owns 20% of ev maker Rivian. Reports are that Amazon has purchased Rivian’s entire first year of production.

UPS is working with some other ev builders. I think Arrival is one of them.

Delivery fleets are perfectly suited for ev use. Short haul and they always know where they will be charging.

When the major USPS LLV replacement contract was released this year a major surprise is that it didn’t go to one of the ev bidders. It went to Oshkosh a DoD firm. But I suppose Oshkosh does have the ability to install electric drive, they just don’t make them.


203 posted on 12/30/2021 6:38:48 AM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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To: Elsie

“Everyone’ ain’t!

Only the folks who do little daily driving and take no long trips.”

The problem is... If even a minority accept this madness, the madness will be forced on everyone else who does not want to participate in the madness. We won’t have an option, and it is overall totally impractical and just cannot be done. So the concept needs to be nipped in the bud from the start with mass resistance and refusal to accept it. Even Musk himself said it will never work. I can’t think of a bigger red flag than that...


204 posted on 12/30/2021 6:40:21 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: cymbeline

Dynamic braking. Teslas have 300 mile range, it shouldn’t be hard to get that with a delivery van. The big fleets are making a heavy commitment, people ought to read the business press more.


205 posted on 12/30/2021 6:46:24 AM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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To: Elsie

About equal to $6 per gallon gas. But there are no ICE maintenance costs.


206 posted on 12/30/2021 6:54:56 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Serpentine...Serpentine...)
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To: dinodino

Remember in the 1970s when it was the environmental left preaching doom & gloom and that we were going run out of everything?

Peak Oil, we would all freeze in the dark and starve because technology and the free market could never keep up. Limits to growth.

Julian Simon on our side famously won that debate. In contrast his place sounds like a Paul Erlich fan club.


207 posted on 12/30/2021 6:58:34 AM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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To: Elsie

Toyota and Hyzon are goig the hydrogen route. Hyliion has a class 8 electric power train that has its own onboard nat gas powered generator. 1200 mile range.


208 posted on 12/30/2021 7:05:22 AM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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To: Elsie

Toyota and Hyzon are goig the hydrogen route. Hyliion has a class 8 electric power train that has its own onboard nat gas powered generator. 1200 mile range.


209 posted on 12/30/2021 7:05:36 AM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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To: Elsie

I have a Mach e and am aware of the electric motor configuration. There are some good online videos that deconstruct EV motors.

Hence the “per se” in my comment. A traditional ICE vehicle has a very different system that would be a real drag on performance and battery life for an electric engine add-on kit.


210 posted on 12/30/2021 8:14:43 AM PST by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: Pelham

“The big fleets are making a heavy commitment”

I noticed that in another post (Amazon and UPS).

Perhaps those outfits will look into converting their diesel vehicles to electric.


211 posted on 12/30/2021 8:16:32 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: Elsie

Here you go. Not exactly abundant. But, the good news is that distribution and availability would be compatible with gas stations as more hydrogen powered vehicles come on-line.

https://azgreenmagazine.com/how-many-hydrogen-fuel-stations-are-there-in-the-us/#/find/nearest?fuel=HY


212 posted on 12/30/2021 10:27:15 AM PST by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp, )
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To: Elsie

Yes, locomotives on land is great. On the water it is a un-needed complication to direct propulsion. There are no hills to climb, or come down from with a ferry. It is a simple point A to point B using a rudder system, and dual thrust on both ends.

The Locomotives operate front and rear, as the caboose is no more. A computer keeps the train taut, so that the front and back of the train are the approximate same distance apart whether climbing a mountain, or coming down it. It makes for less derailments, a smoother ride, and the ability to use less physical braking.

My best friend is a retired RR Engineer, and the way modern trains function is a common discussion over adult beverages.


213 posted on 12/30/2021 12:55:35 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: Openurmind
...the madness will be forced on everyone else ...

I don't think this is going to happen.

214 posted on 12/30/2021 5:02:39 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Pelham
Teslas have 300 mile range, it shouldn’t be hard to get that with a delivery van.

Telsa 'delivers' 4 people max. A loaded van gonna weight a LOT more than a Tesla, therefore gonna need a LOT larger battery.

215 posted on 12/30/2021 5:04:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Pelham
Hyliion has a class 8 electric power train that has its own onboard nat gas powered generator.

Why not use the nat gas from the getgo?

216 posted on 12/30/2021 5:06:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

“I don’t think this is going to happen.”

We won’t have a choice when they outlaw everything else. Would they? You can bet on it if this is not nipped in the bud now...


217 posted on 12/30/2021 6:10:00 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind
Nip it

NIP IT!


218 posted on 12/31/2021 5:32:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Openurmind

219 posted on 12/31/2021 5:36:39 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Yep... lol :)


220 posted on 12/31/2021 5:38:39 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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