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Christian Rep. Madison Cawthorn calls higher education a ‘scam,’ urges conservatives to ‘drop out’ unless they are studying the hard sciences
Christian Post ^ | 12/23/2021 | Leonardo Blair

Posted on 12/23/2021 8:30:28 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Partially paralyzed Republican Congressman Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina, who attended a Christian college for one semester before dropping out, urged conservative youth on Tuesday to drop out of college if they aren’t studying medicine, law or engineering because higher education is “a scam.”

“People will call me a radical for believing that you should be a Christian, you should get married young, you should have as many kids as possible, you should try and have a great job, you should be as successful as you possibly can. They’ll say I’m extremist for that,” Cawthorn said at AmericaFest 2021.

The “large patriotic celebration of all things red, white and blue” was organized under the banner of Turning Point USA and held in Phoenix.

“I genuinely just care about dining room politics,” the 26-year-old added. “I care about that young family who’s sitting around the dinner table. And what are they thinking about when they’re seeing their young children eat? They’re thinking about 'am I going to be able to send them to a good school?'” he continued before boasting about being homeschooled.

"One, I think you should home school. I was homeschooled all the way through,” he said to cheers. “I am proudly a college dropout. If you are not becoming an engineer or a doctor or a lawyer, I highly encourage you to drop out. It’s a scam.”

While some may find the congressman’s comments shocking, his attitude towards higher education isn’t uncommon, as many former students have been left with diminishing financial returns in post-college employment and large student debts.

Some 32.1% of the U.S. population 25 years of age and older holds at least a bachelor’s degree, according to data from the American Community Survey.

In recent reports, however, as college-educated women grapple with the diminishing returns from degrees, many men have cited diminishing returns as they are now completely choosing to forgo college.

“If I was going to be a doctor or a lawyer, then obviously those people need a formal education. But there are definitely ways to get around it now,” Daniel Briles, 18, who graduated in June from Hastings High School in Hastings, Minnesota, recently told The Wall Street Journal. “There are opportunities that weren’t taught in school that could be a lot more promising than getting a degree.”

But in a September report titled “The Great Divide: Education, Despair and Death,” husband and wife research team, Anne Case and Nobel Prize winner Angus Deaton Princeton University, contend that Americans who don’t have a college degree face a “bleak” and deadlier future compared to those who do.

They found that increasing deaths by drugs, alcohol and suicide, known as “deaths of despair,” are largely concentrated among Americans without a college degree. Meanwhile, a college degree appears to act as a talisman against them. The research built on previous work examining the relationship between mortality and education in America.

Cawthorn was left partially paralyzed at age 18 after a 2014 car crash, which occurred while returning from spring break with a friend in Florida.

In a deposition cited in The Citizen-Times in Aug. 2020, Cawthorn revealed that he had enrolled in Patrick Henry College in Purcellville, Virginia, in 2016 but dropped out after only one semester.

The small evangelical Christian school is a magnet for homeschoolers because it is known to place graduates into federal government positions successfully.

Cawthorn, who was studying political science at the time, earned mostly D letter grades. He testified that his injuries from the crash that left him paralyzed affected his ability to learn. When he was further questioned about his reason for leaving the school by an insurance-company lawyer, he said it was because of “Heartbreak.” He said his then-fiancé left him for another classmate because she “didn’t get along with my mother.”

"The MAGA doctrine that Donald Trump started, when people say Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party, I say, 'I think he started a revolution in this country where now we are the leaders of the conservative movement,'” he said.

“I’ll tell you, I’m a devout Christian. I’ve got a great relationship with my Lord and Savior. And so, of course, I love being able to help people. I love taking care of people. I think we should send missionaries out into the world. We should bring people to Christ,” he continued.

Cawthorn said he believes America should have a “strong economy” and the “way we should do that is by encouraging people to be able to go out and take risks.”

"Instead of taking out that $100,000 student loan as an 18-year-old, which is worthless as an 18-year-old, why doesn’t the government allow us to be able to take out a $10,000 business loan at 18 to be able to go and create an economy and create work and create all these great things,” he said.

Cawthorn argued that there needs to be a greater focus on domestic issues, like taking care of veterans, rather than the U.S. trying to police the whole world. He also dismissed the notion that the U.S. is not a nation of Christians.

"I think the most important thing for us to do is to save souls for Jesus Christ. But that’s our jobs as Christians, and I believe we are a Christian nation,” he said. “Almost every single one of the signers, they were regular church-attending Christians. If anybody wants to tell you they were atheists or deists, they’re idiots. Don’t listen to them.”

“When people say we’re not a Christian nation and we’re founded by racists, by evil men, that’s wrong,” he maintained. “The people who founded this nation should be revered and they should talk to the next generation as the heroes of the 18th century.”

He also urged followers of Christ to engage in civil disobedience.

“I used to pray all the time. I would say, ‘God, why did you not let me be alive in the 1940s fighting against World War II or be alive during the revolution. I want to be a warrior for you. I want to save my country. I want to do all these great things. But you have me born in 1995, the height of the most peaceful and prosperous time the world has ever known,’” he said.

[Well] guys, I’m sorry for praying that prayer. I think God has answered in a big way. He said, ‘you know what? Here’s tyranny, here are people trying to censor your speech, here are people trying to control every bit of your life.”

Cawthorn said he was aware some Christians might point to Scripture that calls them to obey the government placed over them but argued that it isn’t that simple.

“I understand that, but does anybody know what the preamble to the constitution says? What are the first three words? ‘We the people,’” he recited. “So in our founding documents, it says we are the authority. It says that people like me, a congressman, I serve you, and so, when the government is not working on your behalf, it is your duty to disregard their orders.”


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To: SeekAndFind

According to a posting on CitizenFreePress he also announced that he and his wife are divorcing. Apparently he being in congress has put irreparable strain on the marriage. He chose congress over her; she chose divorce over him.


21 posted on 12/23/2021 8:51:58 AM PST by howlinhound (Live your life so that, when you get up in the morning, Satan says, "Oh Crap!..He's awake" - Unknown)
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To: Reno89519
VERY STUPID MOVE as all that will accomplish is making the next generation of conservatives unqualified for any work. Better solution is to fight and fix things rather than quit and cower.

And SUPPORT the good places, especially the ones NOT feeding at the trough (e.g. Hillsdale, Christendom, Grove City, College of the Ozarks)
22 posted on 12/23/2021 8:52:55 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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To: Kevmo

Uh no. He has to be 35. He only 26 now.


23 posted on 12/23/2021 8:53:06 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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To: SeekAndFind

So much internal conflict

You say the right things, then why are you and Cristina getting a divorce? Does she want to go back to Florida?

You know, Madison, the Enemy knows the Word better than any human. Like this, the Enemy knows how to lie to you when you hear 99.9999999% of the truth...that 0.0000001% is a lie...

Let me make another analogy with the percentage. Let’s say our soul is intact and pure at 100%. You commit one small sin, let’s say the common “having marital relations before marriage” in today’s culture. With ignorance of the full content and you agree with that one tiny sin, your makeup is at the 99.9999999% mark. However you fluctuate through the years, that tiniest of sin will be a mark against you into the pit with the other sinners. With Yeshua, however, you will be reborn and have an intact 100% soul again.

Madison claims he has a good relation with Jesus Christ, but then remains in politics...perhaps you need to have a good relation with the Father through Christ Yeshua; save your marriage and do things in your control. While I agree with your premise on college loans, you went to (and dropped out of) a Christian college. I went to Liberty as a dual-serviced veteran, originally in Theological Studies, but graduated in Behavioral Sciences, Computational Sciences, and Counseling. Waste of time, Madison?

You’re young. Figure it out before it is too late, bro.


24 posted on 12/23/2021 8:53:20 AM PST by SemualRoberts (one of the Paraclete's vessels, one of many of Yeshua's chosen )
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To: SeekAndFind
Rep. Madison Cawthorn calls higher education a ‘scam,’ urges conservatives to ‘drop out’ unless they are studying the hard sciences

Says the man who was a going to be a Poli Sci major before flunking out after a semester.

25 posted on 12/23/2021 8:55:34 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: TexasGurl24

Next thing you’ll tell me is that he’s not a Natural Born Citizen.

Why would AGE matter when NBC doesn’t?


26 posted on 12/23/2021 8:55:37 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Reno89519
VERY STUPID MOVE as all that will accomplish is making the next generation of conservatives unqualified for any work. Better solution is to fight and fix things rather than quit and cower. This is a bit of the overall problem, too many people prefer quitting.

Wrong! We want our kids and grandkids to be absolutely as successful as possible. Do NOT send your kids to be indoctrinated at the so called "institutions of higher education." It's a scam and a rip off.

Send them to get degrees in the hard sciences or trades where they can learn a skill. Our children are being dumbed down and prepared only to be serfs.

I agree with Cawthorn on the let them get degrees in engineering and medicine, but the last thing we need is more lawyers.

By all means, home school if you can. The kids are not getting educated now in the public schools. They are being dumbed down to the max and most parents don't know or don't care.

27 posted on 12/23/2021 8:55:50 AM PST by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, RINOs, Islamonazis, Marxists, Commucrats, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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To: bk1000
College isn’t for everyone.

It's not. Unfortunately, a great many jobs today require a college degree, even if it's in basketweaving as long as you have a diploma. Pretty much every white-collar job. This didn't used to be the case.

And if you want to know why college is now so expensive, here's just one school:

And another:


28 posted on 12/23/2021 8:56:36 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Anne Case and Nobel Prize winner Angus Deaton Princeton University, contend that Americans who don’t have a college degree face a “bleak” and deadlier future compared to those who do.”

complete elitist ivory tower bullshite: the U.S. has a desperate shortage of those who can build things, make things, and/or repair things ... just try to find someone who can cut down a tree or remodel a kitchen ...


29 posted on 12/23/2021 8:57:05 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

He should narrow his comment down to the “social sciences.”

they are completely and utterly corrupted by the Left.


30 posted on 12/23/2021 8:57:35 AM PST by PGR88
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To: AppyPappy
Not a scam. Students pick their own major. My daughter majored in Art History, went into Graphic Design and I see her ads on social media.

True in your instance, however, it is not the norm.
31 posted on 12/23/2021 8:58:11 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Drew68

Big Education:

Funneling borrowed money to Educrats to donate to Democrats.


32 posted on 12/23/2021 8:58:22 AM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: Drew68

Those lists are insane.


33 posted on 12/23/2021 8:58:37 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: SemualRoberts

Community colleges on the trimester system. Minimum vacation breaks. Get to work by age 20.


34 posted on 12/23/2021 9:00:32 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: SeekAndFind

“I think the most important thing for us to do is to save souls for Jesus Christ. But that’s our jobs as Christians”.

Well, no - that’s GOD’s job. Christians don’t save anybody, we give people the opportunity to know Christ and his saving power. Critical difference, and sloppy language like this doesn’t help.


35 posted on 12/23/2021 9:01:00 AM PST by jagusafr ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

We need to support (and yes, even with my tax dollars if necessary) TRADE schools.

I have nothing against people studying English poetry, ancient history, or political science, but investing in the next generation of welders, plumbers, mechanics, draftsmen, linemen, heavy equipment operators, and truckers is a use of tax dollars that will actually repay us- both in terms of lower unemployment and a healthier economy.

It would be better to have low-interest loans, because kids learning an actual marketable skill are going to pay that loan off really quickly compared to the poor idiot with a $150K aboriginal basket weaving PhD, but I’d rather we put 100K more mechanics and plumbers and electricians into the field than 100K soldiers or welfare workers.


36 posted on 12/23/2021 9:10:39 AM PST by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s not what you major in; it’s what you know how to do. For instance, Art majors are taught how to weld.

Two years after I graduated with a BIT degree, no one cared about my major.


37 posted on 12/23/2021 9:11:46 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: Rurudyne

Aptly put


38 posted on 12/23/2021 9:16:13 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: SeekAndFind

I got a great liberal arts education (History). It was academically rigorous, teachers did not push their own viewpoints in class and worth the cost. It was only after the end of the semester that I would discuss current events with the professors and most would talk about anything. To be sure, most had liberal leanings, but it never came through in the choice of reading assignments, lectures, etc. Maybe I was lucky.

I get more politics in class for the graduate courses I take in environmental science, policy, etc. And mostly from other students.


39 posted on 12/23/2021 9:31:44 AM PST by Fury
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To: Reno89519

Do both. Study many subjects. Also learn how to fix things so as not to be dependant on professionals all the time. Try not to support “victim” studies and don’t go to schools which have majors in that. But I agree with Cawthorn on many things, as reported in the article, but not all. He sounds pretty solid overall.


40 posted on 12/23/2021 9:32:28 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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