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IMPORTANT FROM WASHINGTON; A Discussion of the English Question in the Cabinet; A Conciliatory Policy to be Pursued (12/19/1861)
New York Times archives – Times Machine ^ | 12/19/1861

Posted on 12/19/2021 7:35:29 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

A Cabinet meeting was held to-day, at which the English question was discussed -- of course informally, as the nature of the dispatches brought by the Royal messenger have not been divulged. There was but one sentiment prevalent, and that was that no quarrel with England must be permitted to interfere at this moment to stay the reduction of the Southern rebels. The Government is probably satisfied that the clamor for a war with England originates with, and is propagated by, sympathizers with the Southern rebellion. It knows that nothing would so gratify the rebels; would so restore their vanishing confidence, and reinvigorate them to redoubled efforts at defence, as the news that England is to be permitted to come to their rescue. It believes it has no right to give new life to the rebellion by entering upon another and vaster quarrel, which would at the same time increase tenfold the burdens upon the people of the North; and it naturally hesitates to adopt a policy which would carry joy to every traitor in the country, and weigh down to poverty the loyal and law-observing citizen. But whether these or other considerations govern in the matter, I have the best authority for saying the demands of England will be met in a spirit of conciliation, which will at once refute the calumny that Mr. SEWARD or any other member of the Cabinet has been eager to provoke a foreign war. The intelligence received by the Jura, that the dispatches with which SLIDELL and MASON were intrusted reached England, notwithstanding their arrest, renders the question as to the disposition of the persons of the rebel envoys one of secondary moment, and a most inadequate one on which to base a great international struggle.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar
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1 posted on 12/19/2021 7:35:29 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 12/19/2021 7:36:31 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Important from Washington: A Discussion of the English Question in the Cabinet – 2-3
The Conflagration at Charleston: Further Details of the Disaster – 3-4
Important from Kentucky: Gen. Buell’s Official Report of the Skirmish at Green River – 4
Editorial: Favorable Aspect of the English Question – 4-5
England’s Second Thought-The News by the Jura – 5
Editorial: A Pretext but no Ground of War– 5
Editorial: Signs of Reaction Against the Rebels in Tennessee – 5-6
Editorial: Rifled Cannon – 6
Malicious Orthography – 6
The Rumored Insanity of Gen. Sherman – 6
Object of the European War with Mexico – 6


3 posted on 12/19/2021 7:37:09 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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4 posted on 12/19/2021 7:43:42 AM PST by sauropod (Meanie Butt Daddy - No you can't)
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"Important from Kentucky: Gen. Buell’s Official Report of the Skirmish at Green River – 4"

"Skirmish at Green River" is today known as the Battle of Rowlett's Station (December 17, 1861), in central Kentucky.
Both sides claimed victory and today history records it as "inconclusive", even though greatly outnumbered Union forces did remain in possession of its objective -- a railroad bridge across the Green River.

Kentucky 1861 Engagements

DateEngagementMilitary UnitsLossesVictor
Sep 19Barbourville, KYUnion KY Home Guard (Black ~300) & Confederate Dept 2 (Zollicoffer ~800)Union 15-total (1-killed); Confederates 7-total (7-killed)CSA
Oct 21Camp Wildcat, KY (near Cumberland Gap)Union IN & KY Infantry, KY Cavalry (Schoepf ~7,000) & Confederate TN Infantry (Zollicoffer ~5,700)Union 25-total (5-killed), Confederates 53-total (11-killed) USA
Nov 8-9Big Sandy-ivy Mountain, KYUnion: Dept of Ohio (Nelson ~5.500) & Confederate 5th Kentucky (Williams, ~1,010)Union 62-total (12-killed), Confederates 235-total (41-killed) USA
Nov 20Skirmish at Brownsville, KYUnion Dept of Cumberland (~115) & Confederate Cavalry (Morgan ~200)Union 14-total (6-killed), Confederates 1-total (1-killed) CSA
Dec 17Rowlett's Station, KYUnion 32nd Indiana (Willich ~500) & Confederate 8th Texas Cavalry, 1sT Ark. (Terry ~1,350)Union 46-total (13-killed), Confederates 91-total (33-killed, including Terry) inconclusive (outnumbered Union forces held the field)

5 posted on 12/19/2021 8:14:50 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

One war at a time.


6 posted on 12/19/2021 9:04:00 AM PST by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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A wise policy.


7 posted on 12/19/2021 9:56:35 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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