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There is plenty of controversy here on FR over the way women deal with men. And with some reason.

Suzanne Venker, by her own admission, didn’t know what she was doing in her early life choices, and has a divorce to show for it. She got her act together, remarried, and now coaches women on avoiding, or recovering from, the mistakes she has identified in her own history and which are systematically promoted in American culture.

Anyone with marriage issues would do well, IMHO, to find Venker’s youTube videos and/or read her books.

Per Wikipedia, Venker is the niece of the late Phyllis Schlafly.

1 posted on 12/15/2021 6:02:10 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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The idea of a “helpmeet” works both ways.


2 posted on 12/15/2021 6:04:03 PM PST by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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what is your response to the following:

beer me

make me a sammich

its time for sex

hint: yes dear


3 posted on 12/15/2021 6:05:56 PM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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Today’s modern karen women in church are breeding a generation of very selfish, entitled women. The bible tells us to submit one to another. The man is expected to model this behavior, THE FIRST TIME they have a major disagreement. The second time, it is the WOMAN’s turn to submit. Then the third time, it’s the MAN’s turn.

The way women see things now is that it is the man’s duty to submit EVERY time. Recipe for disaster.


4 posted on 12/15/2021 6:06:14 PM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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I’m sure the comments will be interesting.


7 posted on 12/15/2021 6:10:31 PM PST by Trillian
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Keep his stomach full and his balls empty.

...is that frowned up these days??


8 posted on 12/15/2021 6:10:46 PM PST by Rural_Michigan
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I purchased a copy of How to Get Hitched for my granddaughter. I confess that I have no confidence that she’ll even read it, let alone take its advice to heart . But my job as a grandfather is to provide wisdom as I am able, and I think that Venker’s points deserve serious consideration. At least if my granddaughter is blindsided by a pitfall Venker points out, it won’t be my fault.
9 posted on 12/15/2021 6:13:29 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (A jury represents society. It presumes the innocence of anyone the government undertakes to punish)
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The modern American female thinks that Cooking, Cleaning, and F...ing are all three cities in China. And this is a joke for goodness sake.


11 posted on 12/15/2021 6:19:21 PM PST by yetidog
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Guy here, never again. Never. Fckuing. Again. Ever


15 posted on 12/15/2021 6:24:15 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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Interesting.

Back when I was in an unaffectionate marriage, I read a lot of relationship books. There were two extremes.

One extreme said women were responders and men were 100% responsible for how they responded. While there is some truth that women are responders, this extreme denied that women bore any responsibility for their attitudes or choices.

The other extreme said that women were 100% responsible for happiness in the home. That if women would just feed men’s two hungers, food and sex, that a man would build them the Taj Mahal. And again there’s some truth that if women would meet those two needs of men, that would go a long way. But I know that there are men that don’t appreciate what they have. And they will treat women poorly regardless of how good the woman is to them. Plus a lot of men do not have a clue how or the resources to build the Taj Mahal, so be careful of setting too high of expectations.

My folks told me that marriage is not 50/50. That it needs to be 100/100, because there will be times when your spouse can not give 50.

Good luck.


16 posted on 12/15/2021 6:24:51 PM PST by DannyTN
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I actually used a book called How to Marry the Man of Your Choice, decades ago. The main take away was that you can’t have a long and picky list of criteria for your ideal spouse and then say “I want him to love me just as I am”. You put your best self forward, and have compassion for the guy’s shortcomings, and then you can start connecting with guys because they will be at ease around you. It was really a love your neighbor as you love yourself bottom line. Married almost 25 years now. ❤️


17 posted on 12/15/2021 6:27:59 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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I Wanna Talk About Me.
44 posted on 12/15/2021 7:19:40 PM PST by Redcitizen
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I joked with a couple of friends that you need to be compatible regarding faith, family, finances and toilet paper. Seriously I advise couples to concentrate on being each others’ cheerleaders, not their coaches. There are plenty of coaches in the world but never-failing cheerleaders are rare and so needed. There’s a good reason why coaches and cheerleaders are not the same person: if people need to know what to do, they look to the coach; if they need to believe in themselves, they look to the cheerleader. If your spouse doesn’t know, when walking in the front door, whether you will greet them as a coach or a cheerleader, he or she will look for cheerleaders elsewhere. Btw, married 36.5 years.


47 posted on 12/15/2021 7:20:57 PM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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A long time ago in San Francisco, there was a 12-step program called, “Sex and Love and Money and Power Anonymous. “ It was for people who didn’t know the difference.

Very interesting people turned up there. I was one of them, and a founder of the program. I had just left my rotten lousy billionaire husband. Not willing to put up with his drunken bullschtein no matter how many billions he had or airplanes, or huge boats, or big houses all over the place.

You cannot imagine the fascinating, interesting, highly-educated people who turned up there. Did them a lot of good.


56 posted on 12/15/2021 7:30:01 PM PST by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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“Then your wife seems to think you’re part of the furniture,
oh it’s peculiar,
she used to be so nice”

Supertramp - “Take the long way home”


63 posted on 12/15/2021 7:39:47 PM PST by P.O.E.
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Dad was married six times.

Mother was married four times.

My younger brother was married four times.

My youngest brother was married three times.

I’ve been married once — for 30 years now.

What the hell am I doing wrong?


69 posted on 12/15/2021 7:47:29 PM PST by Magnatron
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First I will call horse hockey. This shit started in the 70's and I don't blame men for not wanting to marry (American) women these days.
The majority of American women are not worth the unhappiness they bring into a man's life.
Women should be careful what they wish for, they just might get it.

We are not frickin equal, there is no 50/50, love/marriage is conditional!

Now beer me and make me a sammich.

82 posted on 12/15/2021 8:03:53 PM PST by Tommy Revolts
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Some years ago, in a small house party with a group of conservative political friends sharing drinks and gossip, I overheard a group of older women friends with ties to Schlafly assessing new marriages and prospective son-in-laws “on the five Cs.” I asked what that was, and they looked at me indulgently, as one would the dumbest boy in class asking about subatomic physics. As they explained, the Cs were the indispensable dating and marriage scoring system: conservative, cash, Catholic, compatible, and Caucasian. And their daughters had been trained to require all five before getting involved with any male — who, being male, of course mostly wanted only two things in a woman: good looks and sex.


83 posted on 12/15/2021 8:05:20 PM PST by Rockingham
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"...embrace the way men and women are naturally wired..."

I find the inability of many people to accept this a completely baffling thing. Research not only shows it, it is evident.

And it isn't that men are better than women or women are better than men.

Men do some things better than women do, and women do some things better than men do.

In my eyes, it is a Ying/Yang kind of thing. When allowed to, the two sexes dovetail nicely and togther are more powerful, efficient and potent than either of them individually.

The unwillingness to accept this comes most fiercely and predominately (though not universally) from the Left.

I have always enjoyed this humorous and excellent view of the differences in the sexes as described in this video: "A Tale of Two Brains" by Mark Gungor

The reaction from the couples in the crowd fully reveal that most rational people understand this difference innately...:)

85 posted on 12/15/2021 8:09:47 PM PST by rlmorel (If the Biden Administration was only stupid or incompetent, some actions would benefit the USA.)
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One and only step: dedicate my life to the Lord Jesus Christ. Let Him make the decisions. Never let anyone come between myself and Christ.

Behold, He delivers a man who can be sanctified by the waters of marriage, and vice versa.

Only one step.


96 posted on 12/15/2021 8:54:59 PM PST by JoanSmith
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Women the secret? DON’T GET FAT.


111 posted on 12/16/2021 2:11:02 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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